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Title: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on July 09, 2009, 08:33AM
I am starting this topic for future reference mainly. Just to check if the list my friend gave me is true. And stop spamming the official thread :)

For 360/PS3/Wii/PS2

Gambit  :gambit: CONFIRMED
Jean     :phoenix: CONFIRMED
Penance  CONFIRMED
Iceman  :iceman: (has been stated as playable by a guy who saw the demo) LINK: http://www.examiner.com/x-7946-SF-Console-Game-Examiner~y2009m6d10-E3-Marvel-Ultimate-Alliance-2-promises-War   99% CONFIRMED : http://img5.yfrog.com/img5/980/63668105.jpg

Ms Marvel  :warbird: CONFIRMED
Nick Fury(some sort of special deal)  :nfury: (Has been stated as NPC by News Lad)

PS2/WII Only (CONFIRMED FOR Wii ONLY TILL NOW)  http://www.flickr.com/photos/17215486@N07/3877974261/sizes/l/

Psylocke  :psylocke: CONFIRMED
Blade  :blade: CONFIRMED
Cyclops  :cyclops:  CONFIRMED

This came from someone I know, and He was right when he provided me with info on MUA1 (e.g he told me that Iceman would be playable way before his reaveal)


EDIT : I added all the info we have on the characters of the supposed leaked roster
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 09, 2009, 08:44AM
This would be awesome if true but with my choice Psylocke and Cyclops would replace Fury (why is he playable again??) and Iceman (I like him, I really do but there is no more room), and Penance with Dr Strange (we need some magical character).
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on July 09, 2009, 08:47AM
Yeah..I hated Nick Fury in the first and now he is back...ugh...
Ill pretend you didnt say anything about Iceman :P And they need another T-bolt...I d prefered Bullseye or Moonstone instead of Penance...

P.S Does anyone remembers who won the polls at the launch of the MAU2 site?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: whiteking on July 09, 2009, 09:08AM
Lol, Agree Nick Fury was ugh in the fist game.
For the Thunderbolts, Moonstone is my favorite, so I would like to see her in the game.

And for the polls the winners were Emma Frost and Rogue, there was a third poll but I don't remember who win that.

:emmafrost:
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 09, 2009, 09:15AM
I think Angel or She-Hulk won the polls too. All three or four are probably DLC. I also like Bullseye and Moonstone instead of Penance but not being a fan of the Thunderbolts I hope they just count Iron Man for he did infiltrate the team once disguised.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 09, 2009, 09:18AM
i wouldn't mind Angel and she hulk a dlc i would get them ^_^
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 09, 2009, 09:19AM
I would like all four as DLC. They would be great. Only She-Hulk however is really a nessecity for me to be in the game. I have a big feeling that Angel will be in as DLC.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 09, 2009, 09:20AM
I liked them, when i got them for Mua 1 :]
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 09, 2009, 09:23AM
Does your friend know if Jean will have Phoenix powers or not because if she doesn't then the other list with Jean, Gambit, and Psylocke in could also be true.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 09, 2009, 09:24AM
I think they should make Dagger a DLC...
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on July 09, 2009, 09:42AM
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on July 09, 2009, 09:23AM
Does your friend know if Jean will have Phoenix powers or not because if she doesn't then the other list with Jean, Gambit, and Psylocke in could also be true.

I have no Idea..I didnt bother to ask(I didnt beleive Mua2extreme and then my friend slaped me with almost the same list :P)...and I dont even know if he knows...
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 09, 2009, 09:44AM
Oh, thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on July 12, 2009, 01:09AM
Ok so now along with Gambit, Jean have been confirmed...


Jean Grey
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b12/SirSexy620/downsized_0711091434.jpg

Three more..It seems that the roster might be true after all... ;)
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Dihan on July 12, 2009, 02:25AM
Yeah. I'm beginning to believe this a little bit. If Iceman is confirmed then it'll pretty much be true. I personally really want Iceman in. I'm just disappointed Hawkeye isn't on that list.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 12, 2009, 08:10AM
I cannot completely hope it is true cuz I wanted Cyke and Fury should be replaced with either Wanda, Spider-Woman, or Wasp.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Teancum on July 12, 2009, 12:25PM
Quote from: Philip on July 12, 2009, 01:09AM
Ok so now along with Gambit, Jean and Penance have been confirmed...

Penance game model
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee175/CdL64/Penancegamemodel.png

Jean Grey
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b12/SirSexy620/downsized_0711091434.jpg

Three more..It seems that the roster might be true after all... ;)

Jean I can see, but how is Penance confirmed by a PhotoBucket picture?  How do we even remotely know that it's official?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on July 12, 2009, 03:12PM
Teancum you just happen to be right :) The link will be removed, the person who made the image just admit it...
That pic IS NOT official :)

P.S Though Penance is most likely the next reveal :P
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Angel on July 12, 2009, 10:28PM
I'm not sure if I would want Penance in the game but I sure am happy that Jean will be in! Hopefully she'll get some awesome new powers and that they won't be just copied over from previous games. Would love to see the fusion between her and other characters too :D
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: ThePhoenix on July 13, 2009, 02:02AM
Oh My God  :eek:
I have to get it when Jean is in. I have to say I thought she wouldn't be in but apparently she is. Yay  :phoenix:
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Shauny7488 on July 13, 2009, 07:30AM
Quote from: Angel on July 12, 2009, 10:28PM
I'm not sure if I would want Penance in the game but I sure am happy that Jean will be in! Hopefully she'll get some awesome new powers and that they won't be just copied over from previous games. Would love to see the fusion between her and other characters too :D

Considering he and the New Warriors were integral in the passing of the SHRA. I think it would be weird to have a Civil War based game without him.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 13, 2009, 08:17AM
That doesn't mean he has to be playable. He could be an NPC or even a boss.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Grig 32 on July 13, 2009, 08:55PM
Since Jean 'died' in MUA 1 and the ending said she'd be back she'll probably be a boss in this game
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: nodoubt_jr on July 13, 2009, 09:28PM
she only died if you chose to save Nightcrawler.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Dihan on July 14, 2009, 02:58AM
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on July 13, 2009, 08:17AM
That doesn't mean he has to be playable. He could be an NPC or even a boss.

So irrelevant, dead characters get to be in whilst the ones important to the plot don't? Brilliant logic you have there.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Shauny7488 on July 14, 2009, 03:33AM
my point exactly
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 14, 2009, 10:57AM
Quote from: Dihan on July 14, 2009, 02:58AM
So irrelevant, dead characters get to be in whilst the ones important to the plot don't? Brilliant logic you have there.

But like I have said once before the story is a What If? so it doesn't matter that she was dead during the time. And Jean is a very popular and well-known character thanks to comics, movies, video games, and even novels and as the makers of the game wanted fan favs she had a very good chance to be in.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: nodoubt_jr on July 14, 2009, 12:39PM
The game is based on the Civil War storyline; it's not an exact take on it (kind of like XML2 is a mixture of AOA, Ultimate, and The Twelve storylines).  So I find all the "that didn't happen in the Civil War" or "they were dead, gone, a clone" stuff kind of pointless.  It is its own world so they could even change what starts the whole thing or the characters involved. So I don't think anyone is guaranteed to be in or out.

I don't know much about Penance and how his powers work now, I haven't read anything he's been in, but as long as he has his Speedball costume as an alternate I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: zmikey08z on July 14, 2009, 01:04PM
Quote from: Grig 32 on July 13, 2009, 08:55PM
Since Jean 'died' in MUA 1 and the ending said she'd be back she'll probably be a boss in this game
Actually, it dosn't follow on from MUA, as said in a interview somewhere.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 14, 2009, 01:13PM
Quote from: nodoubt_jr on July 14, 2009, 12:39PM
The game is based on the Civil War storyline; it’s not an exact take on it (kind of like XML2 is a mixture of AOA, Ultimate, and The Twelve storylines).  So I find all the "that didn’t happen in the Civil War" or "they were dead, gone, a clone" stuff kind of pointless.  It is its own world so they could even change what starts the whole thing or the characters involved. So I don’t think anyone is guaranteed to be in or out.

I know I hate when people do that just because they don't like Jean and they say she can't be in cause she was dead. I mean they never say anything about characters like Gambit, Hulk, and Thor but when Jean makes it in they throw a big fit.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Teancum on July 14, 2009, 01:58PM
Because even though Jean is awesome, she's overrated and personally speaking Marvel writers. messed around with her too much to have her be interesting anymore.  Still, she beats out Emma, who's basically a stripper, and a poor excuse for a Jean replacement.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Quentin Hex on July 14, 2009, 02:13PM
Quote from: Teancum on July 14, 2009, 01:58PM
Because even though Jean is awesome, she's overrated and personally speaking Marvel writers. messed around with her too much to have her be interesting anymore.  Still, she beats out Emma, who's basically a stripper, and a poor excuse for a Jean replacement.
YES!!!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 14, 2009, 02:19PM
Quote from: Teancum on July 14, 2009, 01:58PM
Because even though Jean is awesome, she's overrated and personally speaking Marvel writers. messed around with her too much to have her be interesting anymore.  Still, she beats out Emma, who's basically a stripper, and a poor excuse for a Jean replacement.

lol
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: whiteking on July 14, 2009, 04:51PM
Quote from: Teancum on July 14, 2009, 01:58PM
Because even though Jean is awesome, she's overrated and personally speaking Marvel writers. messed around with her too much to have her be interesting anymore. 

Jean is overrated?? maybe yes, maybe not, it depends of which side of the coin you are looking... the thing is that she is an awesome character (when she has a great writer behind her) but the problem is, that I think that most of the actual writers in the X-men series, don't know how to include her in their story arcs.
Take Uncanny X-men, most of us though that she was going to return in the Sisterhood arc, and what we have??? Nothing! Jean still dead, perhaps they think she should stay dead at least for a while, I don't know...
If she return, I would be happy, because she's a good character, but I doubt that her return to the mainstream (in comics) will be soon...

Quote from: Teancum on July 14, 2009, 01:58PM
Still, she beats out Emma, who's basically a stripper, and a poor excuse for a Jean replacement.

I guess you don't read the most recent comics of X-men, because if you did, you will find that Emma is a totally different character from Jean.
The only thing that unites them is the psionic powers they have and Scott Summers, nothing more. As Jean, Emma can be a great character with an amazing personality when genious as Grant Morrison and Joss Whedon are behind her, but when you have a mediocre "writer" as Matt Fraction, you only have a blonde woman with big boobs (you don't know how much I hate him for that)
But, since she's so interesting to write, that most of the writers of marvel, still include her in most of their stories and comics and she's still is a strong and important character in the Xmen and The Marvel universe.
Poor excuse for Jean replacement? I don't think so...

:emmafrost:
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Dihan on July 14, 2009, 04:57PM
The thing I don't like about Jean is that she's just too powerful to keep alive. To avoid a big deus ex machina they have to kill her off. She's more of a liability to have alive.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Teancum on July 14, 2009, 05:10PM
I dunno, I still don't find Emma interesting in the least.  Not as a member of the Hellfire club, not as Jean's replacement for Cyclops, not as an X-Man.  And if we want to talk writing and creativity I'd say it's never been any better than when Jim Lee was around.  Since then it's been ho-hum, at least on the X-Men front.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: whiteking on July 14, 2009, 05:24PM
Quote from: Teancum on July 14, 2009, 05:10PM
I dunno, I still don't find Emma interesting in the least.  Not as a member of the Hellfire club, not as Jean's replacement for Cyclops, not as an X-Man.  And if we want to talk writing and creativity I'd say it's never been any better than when Jim Lee was around.  Since then it's been ho-hum, at least on the X-Men front.

I know, it's always nice to have someone who have a different opinion, It just that the comparisons between both women are (to me) like: "Oh, please that was so old, Emma replacing Jean? Come on!"
Jim Lee is a classic, he has good things and bad things as everything, and he create a great product... long time ago, I'm talking about the recent years of the xmen, when (I feel)many of the main characters get differences that makes them more unique.
Emma and Jean are my exmples for that, I always thought that Jean was so boring and weak, always claiming help, always between the shadow of Cyclops and Xavier, until New X-men when (I feel)she become stronger and confident of what she is. Same with Emma.

:emmafrost:
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 14, 2009, 05:24PM
I have enjoyed the 90s better. I have been buying many 90s issues and most are interesting. I have to say that I kind of wished that Jean could be turned into a teenager who does what she wants when she returns by some evil villain. Her selfish side is shown and she isn't selfless cause I want to see what she might do if for once she was selfish. Scott would feel bad since Jean doesn't know how to use her powers and her family is dead so he gets back together with her. She gets kidnapped and killed as she is vulnerable while young but only her young and selfish side is killed. Her normal adult and selfless side is still alive and she returns an issue (or maybe in the same issue that she is killed) and Scott who has learned to love her again picks her and afterwards he finds out that Jean telepathically changed his mind so he would choice Emma instead of Jean when Jean died from Magneto's hands. Then the couple live happily ever after.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Shauny7488 on July 14, 2009, 05:27PM
Quote from: nodoubt_jr on July 14, 2009, 12:39PM
I don’t know much about Penance and how his powers work now, I haven’t read anything he's been in, but as long as he has his Speedball costume as an alternate I’ll be happy.

Same powers as Speedball, the only difference is now, is that he can only focus those powers when he is in pain.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 14, 2009, 05:29PM
I think the powers are a little weaker now though.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: nodoubt_jr on July 14, 2009, 06:51PM
Quote from: Dihan on July 14, 2009, 04:57PM
The thing I don't like about Jean is that she's just too powerful to keep alive. To avoid a big deus ex machina they have to kill her off. She's more of a liability to have alive.

She's only over the top when the Phoenix is involved.  I hope when they bring her back she's Phoenix less and at the same power level she was before the Phoenix starting showing itself again.  She was great and powerful during her time in X-Factor and 90s Jean, and she didnt need the Phoenix to be interesting. If they do decide to keep her with the Phoenix i hope she's written sorta like Rachel Summers was written during her time in Excalibur, powerful but not over the top.

Quote from: Shauny7488 on July 14, 2009, 05:27PM
Same powers as Speedball, the only difference is now, is that he can only focus those powers when he is in pain.

ok thanks
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 14, 2009, 07:19PM
Quote from: nodoubt_jr on July 14, 2009, 06:51PM
She's only over the top when the Phoenix is involved.  I hope when they bring her back she's Phoenix less and at the same power level she was before the Phoenix starting showing itself again.  She was great and powerful during her time in X-Factor and 90s Jean, and she didnt need the Phoenix to be interesting. If they do decide to keep her with the Phoenix i hope she's written sorta like Rachel Summers was written during her time in Excalibur, powerful but not over the top.

I doubt that will happen now that Jean and Phoenix are one. It was their destiny to be one being and the Phoenix's powers are rightfully hers. Maybe something like she can only use the White Phoenix powers in the White Hot Room. Be cool if the White Phoenix costume becomes her regular costume when she comes back though.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 09:55AM
No not really the Phoenix is a seperate entity and always has been it just merged with Jean just as it had been doing with countless other telepaths before her. And now that Jean is dead, I see no reason for the phoenix to be present if they ressurect her. Thats long gone. I used to like Jean a lot but all this Phoenix nonsence really puts me off her. The writers need to leave that dead and buried story saga alone. Then people will start to like her again. As for being in the game I wouldn't mind seeing her there but something tells me she'll be very similar to Invisible Woman so I'd rather see pyslocke

As for the top telepath to go in to the new MUA. Emma gets my vote not only is hot favouite but she actually has some relevance to the storyline. She such a great character. Generation X was my favourite comic book and largely due to her Synch & Chamber. She's come a long way and has done an awful lot as co leader of the x-men.


And Emma and Jean are nothing alike two totally different personalities. The only thing they have in common is that they're both powerful telepaths who have been linked to Cyclops. Apart from that theres nothing at all alike about them.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 17, 2009, 12:14PM
I think she will be made differentally than IW. I also find that Emma having simply told Ms. Marvel and Iron Man that the X-Men will be neutral is nothing important. Replace her with Jean, Storm, or Wolvie and nothing major changes. And the Phoenix hasn't merged with anyone besides Jean as they were always meant to be one  being. Not only is that Jean's destiny but also the Phoenix's. For the rest of their life they will be one as they are technically the rulers of the Phoenix hosts.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 03:00PM
Who told you that? I don't think you know your comic history. The Phoenox has been merging with humns for generations and generations. It favours telepaths though. The first person to merge with the Phoenix was Feron. And he used its powers to protect the Excaliber light house tower. Rachel Summers also had the Phoenix power for a few years and so did Madelyn Pryor. Kid Omega also was possessed by the phoenix force and he tryed to use its power to ressurect his dead wife. The phoenix force also merged with a stepford Cuckoo and Emma Frost has also wielded the power of the Phoenix. So don't be thinking that Jean is special because she isn't. I'm sure theres countless others it has merged with but thats all I remember. The Phoenix and Jean are not destined to be together.

Anyway back on track, Emma is the co-leader of the X-men and although she and the x-men chose to remain neutral she certainly was involved ans wasn't dead which is what Jean was.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 03:06PM
Where did this leaked character roaster come from anyway?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 17, 2009, 03:13PM
I'm afraid you don't know your history. The Phoenix was in Maddie but she never harnessed it's powers. Also Kid Omega wasn't married ever. He wanted to resurrect the dead Cuckoo Sophie as he had a crush on her. And in Classic X-Men either the issue where Jean dies or her funeral there is a backstory and Death tells Jean that she is the proper owner of the Phoenix's powers. The Phoenix has only became one with Jean. No one else. Others have been the host but never merged. The Phoenix first took part of Jean's pysche making it believe it was Jean. It got corrupted but the part of Jean inside Phoenix convinced it to commit suicide. Jean later wore the costume of Phoenix and in Morrison's run she regained her tk as well as started manifesting the Phoenix. In endsong Jean and the Phoenix became one as this was their destiny. They are know White Phoenix the highest state any Phoenix person can be so she is like technically a queen now of all Phoenix hosts. So no one else no not even Rachel has merged with Phoenix. Only host not merged. Jean is merged now though as that is their destiny. Jean and Phoenix's destiny. Till the end of time they will be one being. This is in Endsong, Here Comes Tommorrow, and that Classic X-Men issue. Remember not merging with others. Others are only the Phoenix host. Now Jean and Phoenix are one being. And it will always be like that.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: nodoubt_jr on July 17, 2009, 03:20PM
Quote from: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 03:00PM
So don't be thinking that Jean is special because she isn't.

In the case of the Phoenix Force she is special, she is more than just another host.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2725

"The phenomenally powerful X-Woman uses her abilities to knock the Phoenix to the ground, as Kitty Pryde mumbles that she knew that was coming eventually. Jean Grey...how did you do that? Without me? Without my power? asks the Phoenix, before Jean replies 'I am you. Don't you remember? Now get out of that stupid body!'

The Phoenix takes to the air again, No, he loves Emma Frost. Loves me. Jean grabs the Phoenix by the throat and rips the White Queen out of her cosmic hold."

"Jean tells the Phoenix that she knows she is confused, but that afterwards, in the White Hot Room, when all their pieces are back together, she will understand. Because you and I are one. 'Yes' agrees Jean. The Phoenix asks if this longing she feels belongs to her, but Jean doesn't answer. The Phoenix realizes she only came back because Jean wanted it, Jean wanted to feel again, to understand in this world."
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 17, 2009, 03:27PM
Thank-you. That is a wonderful example.

EDIT: Found some scans from Classic X-Men. This story was made in 90s so the fact that she merged with Phoenix are implied that she will be yet even if she is in White Phoenix Costume.


http://hem.passagen.se/hggblom2/phoenix/pics/phoenixyears/cxmen43b.htm
http://hem.passagen.se/hggblom2/phoenix/pics/phoenixyears/cxmen43c.htm
http://hem.passagen.se/hggblom2/phoenix/pics/phoenixyears/cxmen43d.htm
http://hem.passagen.se/hggblom2/phoenix/pics/phoenixyears/cxmen43e.htm
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 03:53PM
Host and merged. To me there was no difference but I understand what yuour getting at now. But i maintain if she is going to be in the game at all, I'd prefer her to have no Phoenix powers at all. Personally I can't stand the whole Phoenix thing and I have a feeling this is why a lot of x-fans despise her too. I don't mind her as Jean but when i hear the words 'Phoenix' it just makes me roll my eyes. Like I said before, there is no reason why all three pictured in your avaiater won't make the game. They are all completely different. I just believe that Emma has more rights to bethere than the others. Thanks for the links. Any word on Punisher yet?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 17, 2009, 03:59PM
Your welcome. I myself wish all three can be in cuz together they would be awesome and it would please lots of people. But it's not completely realistic. Psylocke and Emma are probably DLC though.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 04:08PM
Well if this is the last MUA game they'll probably pull out all the stops. So we might find ourselves presently surprised with the amount of DLC characters. And if Activision are paying attention to the game boards then they'll see that Emma, Jean and Betsy are the obvious character favourites. Man I'm so glad I own an X-Box360
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 17, 2009, 04:16PM
This is the last MUA game???? I'm also happy that I own a xbox 360.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 05:11PM
They didn't say that but somebody mentioned it on the MUA2 board. I hope it isn't though but I reckon it will be. Lets just hope they don't release an upgrade of the game like they did for the first one. I had to buy it twice. First the original then I bought the gold version so i could play the extra eight characters. Hopefully they won't do anything like that for this one. I'd rather have all the goodies at once and no console exclusives.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: warmachine300 on July 17, 2009, 05:19PM
I've just noticed also that in the picture on the official MUA2 board Invisible Woman appears o be flying or balancing in mid-air. Did anyone else see that?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 17, 2009, 07:56PM
They originally said she wouldn't,but I think that was called untrue later. Her flying in the mural gives hope she can fly.They wouldn't tease us like that. Or I hope not.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: haydnc95 on July 18, 2009, 06:31PM
i really dont see why there not letting her fly or slide, i mean c'mon nearly everytime i see her get around is on a force slider path thing! i mean , look at the animated series. She flies around nearly everywhere!!
i really wish she could slide, like icemans ice tracks!!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 19, 2009, 12:14AM
If they have dagger they will put c
Quote from: xxoldlacexx on July 09, 2009, 09:24AM
I think they should make Dagger a DLC...
If they have dagger they will put cloak, as he was in the recent trailer
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Teancum on July 19, 2009, 06:52AM
Dagger's been spotted in one of the trailers - I doubt she and cloak are playable though.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on July 25, 2009, 08:15AM
Ok more News! With Penance Pic floating around and the inclusion of Ms Marvel in the NY gameplay trailer, Iceman was confirmed(by accident) at the comic con booth to the people playing the demo!

LINK : http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/marvelultimateallianceiifusion/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-50605453&pid=951211&page=1

So far so good with the list. Now I pray Nick is not in cause I hate him...(i am praying on that sort of special deal part) but I am afraid he is in :(
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 25, 2009, 08:53AM
I'm guessing Iceman is in. If so hopefully then Fury is only a XBOX 360 and PS3 exclusive (or switch him out with Psylocke and Cyclops and Fury becomes WII and PS2 exclusive and we get a good X character) then I may still get Spider-Woman or Dr. Strange.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Dihan on July 25, 2009, 10:25AM
Yay! Iceman! :D

I just hope they make a better job of his skins than the ones in MUA.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 25, 2009, 11:52AM
Is it me, or was all of Silver Surfer's skins the same...
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Angel on July 25, 2009, 12:46PM
I really don't want Nick Fury as a playable character. It's a space that another character who is funner to play as could use. I understand that he's everywhere in the Marvel Universe but make him an important NPC.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Gevth on July 25, 2009, 01:35PM
This further proofs Ms.Marvel is playable: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/marvelultimateallianceiifusion/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-50601260&pid=951211&tag=topics;title

Quote from: 0Swordsman0At 1:45 the text mentions a fusion between Invisible Woman and Ms. Marvel. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-marvel-ultimate/53235


Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Gevth on July 25, 2009, 06:05PM
I've had a sudden thought... wildly speculative...

Well, Phillip's friend told him the complete roster (and I, like most people, have to agree that he was right). Also, VV said that they won't reveal the last character, at least until after the game comes out. From this list, the only one who hasn't been unofficially confirmed yet is Nick Fury. We're still waiting for official confirmations for Ms. Marvel and Iceman, though, but there is evidence these characters will be playable.

But, what happens if the last character, the one they don't want to reveal, is actually someone who would stir the ambient? I mean, if I made the game, and tried to keep one character as a secret until players found it on their own, I wouldn't have him be a returning character, but rather, a character either nobody expected, or better yet, one that most people wanted, but that they weren't sure it would be in the game....

But certainly, if it was such a character, a lot of people involved in the game would want to tell someone (like Phillip's friend) about it, out of excitement, most likely. So, how do you avoid getting such leaks? Have a very small team work on him. But it still needs testing, and bug-checking, and anything else that could provoke undesired people to notice it.

In that case, I'd put a decoy character who uses a similar powerset. By now, I hope you all know it occurred to me that the last character, the one who won't be revealed, is Punisher, and he'll be taking the place of Nick Fury in this roster list.

Well, this is definitely some wild speculation, but I really don't see them saving Ms. Marvel, Iceman or Nick Fury, when they could've saved Gambit or Jean Grey, both characters that happen to have a really big and loud fanbase. In fact, if the last character isn't Punisher, Magneto or Dr. Doom, I can't see a reason to keep him a secret until the game's released.

Phillip, could you ask your friend if such a thing could be possible?

PS: I'm sorry for making a double post, but it's an idea that deserved a separate post.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 25, 2009, 06:20PM
QuoteWell here is an interesting tidbit of info. According to a guy on the Hero HQ board he viewed Kalina's twitter page and she blogged saying that her favorite character hasn't been revealed yet. And this is after Gambit and Jean Grey were revealed! So unless she changed her favorite character, Psylocke's chances have just increased ALOT

Also Gevth you may be right. I do whoever think that Psylocke is in especially cuz of this. Something tells me that Psylocke would be  more telepathic than Jean so she has a good chance especially as she woukd be a great replacemtn for Elektra, and another female. However this may also just make her an exclusive for WII and Ps2. If so I guess I'll just get the Ps2 version, So sad.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on July 26, 2009, 12:35AM
Gevth I ll ask him ( I think he is on vacations right now). I thought about it too. The secret character had to be a new one, otherwise people would be really dissapointed...
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Venom on July 26, 2009, 02:47AM
It sounds like something they would do Gevth or it could also be someone like Nova or the Silver Surfer so there is a Galactus tie in to re-unite the heroes.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 01:13PM
No, No, No, No. What about Dark Phoenix or White Phoenix or Cable or X-Men or Scarlet Witch so the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants try to take over the world, or if you have Professor Xavier so Doom escapes from his prison and comes back to rid the world again, or if you don't like that what about Mister Sinister so a Apocalypse tie-in no, no, no wait... Doom takes Apocalypse's power and Galactus' then goes and re-takes Odin's and is no-match for one side of heroes to fight so they re-unite under Nick Fury and in the end Phoenix (Jean Grey) with help from Silver Surfer releases the phoenix and vanishes with Doom into another world (dimension) and spends his immortal life there. What about that!

They will make them come together in the end for sequal and will say something really corny like "Why are we fighting we know not to do that" and unlike in the civil-war they'll make Ironman and Captain America come ask each other we need to take down S.H.I.E.L.D and in the end like in X-Men Legends II: Rise Of Apocalypse they'll have a villian watching over them laughing very, very scary. That could be Doom with Odin's and Apocalypse's and Galactus' powers and that's who you will fight in the sequal?

Did you know that I wrote that in 2 mintues?

Back to where I was before I wandered off into my own land, they make the heroes all team up under the command of Cap and Ironman and will take down S.H.I.E.L.D and Nick Fury will call onto a Odin for Doom's release and then Doom will come back to earth and you'll have to fight him again no wait that's lame isn't it? Nick Fury will call on the Brotherhood of evil mutants no that's even lamer wait the heroes and villians still with S.H.I.E.L.D  you'll fight against like Cloak and Dagger or Silver Surfer or Magneto or some-one really powerful?

Who else could they have? Galactus? Apocalypse? Or even some-one new like Dark Phoenix or Spider-Carnage no they're to weak who could be else they have?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Quentin Hex on July 26, 2009, 01:25PM
ow. my aching brain.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: BLaw on July 26, 2009, 02:18PM
I'm with deedoo.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Quentin Hex on July 26, 2009, 04:09PM
@unknown) you seem to be having an inner dialogue. your ideas are confusing and conflicting with very little of anything resembling something that might be mistook for order on a dark night. from behind.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 04:29PM
I like to think my brain as a world or like a mother who has to hear around about 1000 kids a mintue. So back onto topic I don't want Ms. Marvel again unless Rouge is in MUA2. The last person should be some-one well known but never appeared out of the comics or very little like She-Hulk or Spider-girl or maybe a villian who was never playable like Shocker? Maybe Hobi?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 26, 2009, 06:26PM
I like Ms Marvel..
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 06:28PM
That's your oppinon
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 26, 2009, 06:29PM
apparently you can't spell that right also...
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 06:30PM
Oh, you got me i'm still on holidays
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Dihan on July 26, 2009, 06:33PM
Ms Marvel fills the niche of super strong female quite nicely without being stuck in melee all the time. I'm still hoping that Hawkeye is in. I see no reason why he shouldn't be in.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 08:57PM
They have 3 more peole to announce! Maybe; Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye and possibly and hopefully a villian maybe like Magneto or Scarlet Witch.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 26, 2009, 10:28PM
Eww Magneto has been in like every game....
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 10:32PM
Hey so has Wolverine and Storm and Cyclops and professor x and a few others.

What I'm trying to say is a good villian would be cool like Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver or Mystique someone who is a villian.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: xxoldlacexx on July 26, 2009, 10:44PM
I ment as a villain.. Mystique would proly be a boss, as Scarlet witch and quicksilver would proly be NPC's
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 10:46PM
Oh I see was referig him as a playable character
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Venom on July 26, 2009, 11:32PM
Quote from: Venom on July 26, 2009, 02:47AM
It sounds like something they would do Gevth or it could also be someone like Nova or the Silver Surfer so there is a Galactus tie in to re-unite the heroes.
Jean Grey has been said by one of the guys working for MUA2 at Comiccon to be resurrected by collecting some crystals which I read on HeroHQ are the same ones Galactus was using in the first. So this could further add to what I said and have Jean(Oh no :( ) be the one the need to destroy the major boss in the game.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Shauny7488 on July 26, 2009, 11:41PM
Quote from: Unknown on July 26, 2009, 04:29PM
I like to think my brain as a world or like a mother who has to hear around about 1000 kids a mintue. So back onto topic I don't want Ms. Marvel again unless Rouge is in MUA2. The last person should be some-one well known but never appeared out of the comics or very little like She-Hulk or Spider-girl or maybe a villian who was never playable like Shocker? Maybe Hobi?

Ms. Marvel was Iron Man's second in command during the Civil War, i know this game isn't exactly following continuity, but one would think that a chacter that was a major player like Carol would HAVE to be in it, right?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on July 27, 2009, 08:51AM
Quote from: Venom on July 26, 2009, 11:32PM
Jean Grey has been said by one of the guys working for MUA2 at Comiccon to be resurrected by collecting some crystals which I read on HeroHQ are the same ones Galactus was using in the first. So this could further add to what I said and have Jean(Oh no :( ) be the one the need to destroy the major boss in the game.

Makes sense to me. She has done it like a hundred times. One more time in a game makes much sense.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on August 24, 2009, 02:00AM
Well, should we wait for Nick Fury now? *cries*
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on August 24, 2009, 02:12AM
Nick Fury? Being Playable? Can start modding Next-Gen if his confirmed?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on August 24, 2009, 02:14AM
Since day 1 I saw the list, I am praying for him to be a mistake...well in 2 weeks that the guide comes out, we ll find out!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Unknown on August 24, 2009, 02:19AM
It would just be a waste of a beautiful space!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: zmikey08z on September 01, 2009, 12:15PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17215486@N07/3878769884/

THE LIST SI REAL
PSYLOCKE, BLADE, CYCLOPS!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 01, 2009, 12:19PM
I still say, that's not real, until it's official. When they really reveal it, then I say: Hip-Hip-Hooray!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: zmikey08z on September 01, 2009, 12:42PM
I can understand, you want the site to say it, or atleast a in-game or cutscene image or a video to prove it, but I trust this so mutch! One question: are there exclusives to 360 and PS3?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:45PM
No! It's real. I think I could cry. I guess I have to get the PS2 version to get Psylocke and Cyclops.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on September 01, 2009, 12:46PM
I ll update the first post, with the confirmation and the link to the pic!


There is hope for Nick Fury not being playable yet. Last time it was said cable would be the last character(in XML2) and he was revealed as PSP exclusive, so there is still hope :P
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: zmikey08z on September 01, 2009, 12:47PM
Or pray they become DLC :)

I so hope Emma is exclusive for 360...that would be weird, if Scott is DLC for 360, wouldn't it? Would the double date be Sue/reed and scott/emma or Sue/reed and scott/jean?
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:49PM
No double date is Scott, Jean, Reed, and Sue. Thank god I doidn't pre-order for 360. Now I need to buy PS2.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: zmikey08z on September 01, 2009, 12:51PM
but Scott and Emma are offical. Scott broke with Jean.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:52PM
Emma is not in yet. And yes but Jean and Scott were in MUA and XML together and the most recognizable and popular. In movies, comics, tv, and games. Scott and Emma are only in games.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: zmikey08z on September 01, 2009, 12:54PM
you mean Scott and Emma are only in COMICS :P And why not have both as options for his Double Date partner? Scott is a player when it comes to Telepaths, after all:P
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on September 01, 2009, 12:56PM
Emma WONT be in the initial roster of anything IMO. All the exclusives are people not on the polls, and she was!

That is why I think the PSP exclusives might have Elektra and Hawkeye!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:56PM
I doubt that will happen.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Angel on September 01, 2009, 12:57PM
I'm sorry to be cynical about it but I really don't believe the pic. How come the promo box art for the other systems don't have the exclusive characters on them so why would the Wii have them? Plus you can see many differences between the left panel and the other two. The biggest being the quality of the image and colors. Sorry but it's an impostor as far as I'm concerned. I just find it hard to believe that such a big character like Cyclops would be an exclusive for the Wii when games like MUA sell more for 360 and PS3. I'll wait for official word, til then it's fake to me sorry.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:59PM
They are only exclusives for WII and PS2 which is why cover is different. I also doubt they could replace Iron Fist with Storm and make it look real so I do think it is real.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on September 01, 2009, 01:00PM
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:56PM
I doubt that will happen.

Are you talking about Elektra and Hawkeye?

@Angel : It doesnt look so fake to me, but why dont you take a trip to the nearest Toy R Us? that is where the pic came from :) The guy said they have the Wii box :)
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 01:03PM
I was saying that to zmikey.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 02, 2009, 04:42AM
Quote from: Philip on September 01, 2009, 01:00PM
Are you talking about Elektra and Hawkeye?

@Angel : It doesnt look so fake to me, but why dont you take a trip to the nearest Toy R Us? that is where the pic came from :) The guy said they have the Wii box :)
Don't get it. Why do they have the Wii box? I mean, how? This is more fake everytime.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:40PM
How is it fake???? Come on!!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Teancum on September 02, 2009, 12:47PM
What proof do you have that it's real?  Someone's word that it's a genuine box?  Nowadays that's not enough.

Just for the sake of comparison, and because someone asked for it, here's the PS3/360 box art, which I've seen myself:

(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu107/winback211/downsized_0711091435.jpg)
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:48PM
Well someone (maybe Gevth) said he wnt to Toyrus and just saw it now. Apperantely he will post pics soon.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Teancum on September 02, 2009, 12:50PM
Well, I hope it is too.  I'm just saying we don't know until there's some cold hard facts.  Maybe Gevth can get some video on a cell phone or more pics to verify it.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:51PM
I'm just hoping it is for PS2 too as then I can't get it. Psylocke and Cyke are a must have for my roster lol!
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Teancum on September 02, 2009, 12:53PM
Yeah, I could care less about Blade, but having Cyc and Betsy would have been cool.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:54PM
Yay Blade was a waste. If they wanted to redeem themselves they should have done Elektra.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Gevth on September 02, 2009, 12:54PM
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:48PM
Well someone (maybe Gevth) said he wnt to Toyrus and just saw it now. Apperantely he will post pics soon.
There are no Toys R Us in my country. It was Scotimus in the "Rumored News" topic.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:56PM
Yeah sorry. I just realized it was him. Someone without a profile pic I remembered.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 03, 2009, 03:07AM
I just wait for the pics. If we get an answer like, "sorry, but they have put it somewhere else" or something, then it will be more fishy to me. If we see a picture, where he holds it in his hands, then hooray, because I'm curious about Blade. I like his cold style.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 03, 2009, 12:41PM
I hate him being in.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 04, 2009, 03:53AM
Blade is just fine. I like his style, his weapons, his suit, so I like Blade.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Scotimus on September 04, 2009, 05:51AM
Please tell me we are not arguing the authenticity of the Wii box that I posted the other day. Seriously, my head will explode.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 04, 2009, 06:27AM
Look, I'm not arguing now about anything. So, if you ask me, no.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: zmikey08z on September 04, 2009, 07:13AM
Proof that it's true ;) Although, you MUST have VIP to see it. So sorry if you can't :) http://marvelultimatealliance.marvel.com/en/news_comments/news_update_from_kalina/

It says: I posted a few hints about the Wii/PS2/PSP exclusives on this thread (http://www.herohq.com/forums/viewthread/12894)

and then everyone let me know that they leaked already (sigh) from one of our retailers that got the pack art for Wii. I'm not ending the day without providing some exclusive news for our VIPs, so how about an exclusive look at the Wii, including the characters that will be exclusively on Wii, PS2 and PSP! Here you go:
-picture of psylocke-
My OTHER favorite character of all-time is in! Go Psylocke! This is not the last you will see of her...
-picture from wii box-
Here is the infamous image from the Wii back of box, showing you which characters will add to the roster for Wii, PS2 and PSP.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 04, 2009, 12:49PM
Yes they are Ps2.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on September 11, 2009, 06:54AM
The list was 100% accurate! For those that havent looked at the secret character thread!

http://img.imgcake.com/Gaisuto/robofury.png
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 11, 2009, 01:05PM
That makes us feel worse. At least the Fury playable thing.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: nodoubt_jr on September 11, 2009, 01:08PM
Next time a list leaks i'll take it more seriously, i cant believe all these were correct :)
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 11, 2009, 01:09PM
Same here.
Title: Re: Leaked Roster?
Post by: Philip on September 11, 2009, 02:56PM
I am not happy that the list is 100% accurate either :P I hate Nick..sorry Nick fans...

And that is the spirit. We dont have to beleive everything but we dont have to flame it either... just have them on our mind cause you never know ;)