Colossus for me. His only good move was his charge Siberian Express. He is far too slow, and all his attacks deal physical damage. His Xtreme boost Unbreakable did double his damage and make him invincible, but when facing physical resistant enemies, what other options does he have? His damage dealt is less than other tanks than that of even Toad.
Colossus was my favorite tank in the game. Definetly one of my favorites. I found the Brotherhood to be pretty boring to use with the exception of Scarlet Witch. I particularly found Magneto to be underpowered
Deadpool was kinda 1-dimensional to me... More like only 1 good offensive move, Rupturing Jab. He was also too slow.
I agree about Colossus midnight, he was like a crappy Juggernaut.
Magneto has Shrapnel Sentry, and spamming that all day with Mental Vortex or Probability Syphon up was pretty good damage. With Polarized Shield, he can have up to 75% chance to block or something?
magneto was underpowered
and many of ther guys were similar in power sets. very dissappointing but somehow they pulled it off to where i still enjoyed the game...weird. but very very dissappointing =(
Colossus and Jean.
Roguey, Chuck and my number #1 guy Cyke weren't exactly powerhouses either.
Quote from: luminary on June 28, 2008, 11:19PM
magneto was underpowered
and many of ther guys were similar in power sets. very dissappointing but somehow they pulled it off to where i still enjoyed the game...weird. but very very dissappointing =(
Wasn't Shrapnel Sentry the sickest skill in the game? Only thing that can rival is Bobby with his overpowered item. Not to mention he was a defensive monster.
But, yes, pretty much all of Mags' other offensive skills were bad.
IMO, the most disappointing character was Jean.
I was so used to her being this extreme powerhouse in the first game and then they completely took away any hopes of her being likable in this.
Another problem with Jean is the fact that they gave her Phoenix abilities (which pretty much sucked like her) and they all did mental damage.
I'm pretty sure the Phoenix Force is energy. I'm not sure it actually qualifies as fire, but that still would have been better than all mental. Professor X has mental, physical and energy attacks. COME ON!!!
And will they ever just call her Phoenix. She's listed between Nightcrawler and Professor X in the game.
Ok. Now that my Jean rant is over. I didn't care for IronMan (Get out of the X-Men games and get your own)
I just find Professor X so boring.
I didn't much care for Deadpool. Extremely annoying.
ScarletWitch could have been more than all hex bolts. Both hers and Jean's Xtremes kind of bugged me that they converted enemies. I felt it took away from the attack.
Many others were just ok. I think if they had actually taken a while longer to make the game (Screw the deadlines, delay the hell out of it like all these musicians do with albums) they could have improved some of the characters and overall gameplay.
Another disappointing character. Or characters are many enemies.
It's kind of dumb when these mutants with amazing powers can't harm an enemy but tapping certain buttons in sequence does the trick.
And what happened to the good old days when a boss fight never consisted of minions and puzzles to defeat them. How about there's the boss, let's kick his @$$.
And the cheese. MY GOD! the cheese. "Chill out!" "Stay frosty!" and the bosses practically telling you how to defeat them. "You haven't destroy all of the braintrust yet". No kidding!!!
Did they get tips from watching the old Batman series??
I really felt like it had no replayability due to the fact that the 3 unlockables sucked beyond words.
That's all for now. That wasn't too long, was it? XD
Iron Man was ownage.
True he was... but i must agree... i would have like specific X-MEN chars...
Deadpool, even though not an X-MEN does fit the game... but Ironman? He's cool, but i was really dissapointed too :(
So, i agree with Mega...
Ironically, now that i am playing MUA... i think it needs more X-MEN XD (thanks God for mods!)
Cheers
Hey iron man as a secret, I don't see what your complaining about. Most of the important x-men where in the game, mind as well put someone no one thought would be in there.
I think the most disappointed one was Magneto! He should have been stronger.
Also Colossus but his defends where pretty good. as for the others
Cyclops could have been better maybe bouncing from walls optic blast.
Jean was good I though except with Phoenix powers being mental i mean wtf.
Wolverine there is no complains about this guy he kicks ass.
Storm her powers she learns later are weaker then her blizzard and big tornado
gambit i think his first boost is the best one of hes boosters
scarletwitch this girl good powers i like super boost fire ring and the box one
iceman I think hes a little over power miss his old ice slide from xml
toad no complains, hes average or beter than i would think of toad
juggernaut this guy, way beter tank then colossus
proffesorx good but i think he was not complete right kind of boring too.
deadpool i like him hes cool, plus another teleporter
rogue great sidekick, although i don't see why she should be slow
sunfire also great nice line up of powers
sabertooth clone of wolverine not good enough
pyro same as sabertooth plus cant fly and his bat trick o.k need more tricks
bishop this guy needs more hp and power if you like far shooters hes your guy
nightcrawler no complains hes really good.
Quote from: ramen on July 08, 2008, 06:59PM
Hey iron man as a secret, I don't see what your complaining about. Most of the important x-men where in the game, mind as well put someone no one thought would be in there.
I agree about putting someone no one thought would be in it, but it still could have been an X-Men character. Havok would have been nice seeing as how they pretty much screwed him over in both games. Mystique would have been amazing.
I honestly didn't care that the "important" characters were in the game. I've said it before, I would like a game done where some of the obvious characters are actually taken prisoner and you get to play as other X-Men.
Colossus was my favorite tank, but I know juggernaut was stronger which annoye me only for the fact that he was better because of his ATTACK SPEED PASSIVE. Which annoyed me because Juggernaut it supposed to be slow, and Colossus has boosted agility and speed in his armoured fom in the comics reguardless of the fact he turns into metal....so in all reality, it would have made mroe sense if colossus had the extra attack speed boost....also, his armour move was way too weak..it would block like one punch and then be gone.
My favorite, but most dissapointing character >.<
were yall playing a different game? lol
i loved jean and rogue, they were always on my team
scarlet witch needed a couple more strong/damaging attacks all of her moves did the same thing
storm just wasnt very strong either
rogue moved way too slow
nightcrawler sucked
colossus had nothing special, only the siberian express move
magneto was completely pointless
cyclops' wide blast thing was way too weak
take iron man out, and i thought deadpool was not very good either
gambit needed something as well
Colossus' buffs were amazing...and made him really good to use for being strong against so many types of atatcks.
Also, Nightcrawler I feel was a "cheat" character. I can play through the game and never die with just him, even against bosses, and it's not even hard.
Just primarily level up his focus and speed, and let hi stregth level itself up slowly. Also, put a little into his body, but not too often, like maybe on point every eight you get. Keep his sped highest, but his focus VERY high as well, below it. Around level tweny they both shol be around seventy.
Also, keep his teleport attack at one point(the ONE hit teleport power.) and with energy potions and how quickly he kill enemies, you can constantly teleport witout running out of energy with that one move. If you raise his critical hit, his teleport mastery, and his evasion then he never gets hit and always kills.
Now if you want to be REALLY cheap, NEVER level his one hit teleport attack, and keep levelin his multi-hit teleport attack. It will cost NO energy....then keep raising strength and speed so he has high accuracy, evasion and strength.
EDIT: Sorry for straying off topic....
i also foudn jean dissapointing....her moves were all weaker than the other characters except for her auto-target psi attack and even then her psionic attacks didn't get criticals like everyone else. Her passives didn't follow her character well, and
Jean was excellent in legends 2. It knowing how to use her properly. Mental guardian was her best attack. The only thing I hated was thhe fact they took away her Telekentic Shield and replaced them with stupid passives like 'Calming presence'. That was completely wrong. Telekinetic sheld is a Jean trademark. Storm, Professer X, Magneto and Sunfire were clearly the BEST game. storm imparticular was atually stronger than ALL the melee fighters put together. STATIC CHARGE was a one hit killer when maxed out & combined with her lighning fury. As for Magneto, Shranel Sentry and his Shield combined with his dodge attack made him literally invunerable. Magnetic grasp was his best move though. Only need to put one point on it and the affects are mamoth. Don't get me even started on the excellence of 'Crushing Ego'. Powerful move. And even beter combined with damage and mental items. Sunfires shield was great to but it his fire knife thrust attack which really makes him a treat to use.
Rogue was most dissapointing for me. TOO SLOW!
Jean :phoenix: was good but could have been better, I think. Mental Guardian was her best attack With it she wins anyone at all in dangerroom.
Nightcralwer :nightcrawler: was cool too, I would've been killed in fight with Sugarman without him.
Storm :storm:, Magneto :magneto:, Sunfire :sunfire: and Iceman :iceman: were cool too.
But to the most dissapointing characters:
Professor X :xavier: He was kinda' week and less superpowers than others.
Colossus :colossus: wasn't good at all, too slow.
Sabretooth :stooth: was just a copy of Wolverine. As well as Pyro :pyro: Was just a copy of Sunfire without flight.
Cyclops :cyclops: was crappy
I disagree. Xavier was always on my team. He is literally unstoppable. His knife attack is a two hit killer cus it has a high critical, crushing ego stops everything insite and his speed was just amazing. His x-treme attack is crappy though. Yeah Nightcrawler was good.
Yeah, Xavier moves fast for a crippled man!
Xavier was one of my favorite characters, but I have to agree with "-phoenix-" that he doesn't have enough superpowers. My most disappointing characters were scarlet witch (i just hated her hex attacks, they didn't really damage someone.) and rogue much too slow.
Gotta say, it just cracks me up that Chuck didn't even have a single proper psychic attack.
The hell, lol?
Quote from: Midnight Curse on September 26, 2008, 07:12AM
Yeah, Xavier moves fast for a crippled man!
Xavier hasn't been crippled since Brian Michal Bendis decided that Wanda was the second coming of Jesus.
Professor X - it doesn´t make sense that he´s playable in XML1 in would make sense.
Magneto - Didn´t really deal damage.
Colossus - He wasn´t that smashing how he should
Jean - Didn´t reall deal damage.
I thought Magneto was fairly good, actually. Magnetic Grasp was fun.
The main character i had a problem with is :colossus: because he really didnt do anything except for his Demolition attack.
:storm: and :magneto: could have been a little bit better. You expect so much from them
If only they had not gotten rid of characters like :magma:, :emmafrost:, :psylocke: and :beast: then everything would have been fine
Storm was cool, although Magneto was a bit of a let down. Maybe some powers where he disarms enemies, a shield that actually looks like his spherical shield, and a power where he chains an enemy to a wall with metal straps. Jean was ok, but she was way better in XMLI. She needed her telekinetic shield and her Phoenix powers should cause energy damage. I've used Colossus and he isn't slow for me. It might be because I downloaded Matt710's booster though. Cyclop was ok, but there isn't much you can do with a character who basically only shoots optic blasts. I liked Rogue although her energy overflow didn't make sense to me since she has never used a power like that in tv, movies, or comics.
Quote from: Midnight Curse on September 26, 2008, 07:12AM
Yeah, Xavier moves fast for a crippled man!
HAHA!!! I could have sworn something was wrong when I was running, and out of the blue, Xavier dashes right next to me like its nothing. Maybe it was his goal to run the olympics. lol
I always had a problem with Jeans XTreme, i mean yeahh its really fun making people work with you, but eventually it gets boring, her XML1 Xtreme was amazing compared to 2, it sucks really, and her attacks just seemed a bit obvious, and they could have been a bit more inventive, i mean compared to like pretty cool, original attacks like MAgnetos Magnetic grasp, and Toads Attacks which were all pretty Cool.
:)
For me it was the other way around. Jeans xtreme in XML1 was awful and never dealt any damage when you compare it with Nightcrawlers 'Shadow Blitz' or Storm's 'Cyclone Fury' and many others. It did next to no damage. Her xtreme in legend2 was way better especially when you had a group of madri approaching you it was most useful converting half of them. Plus once their converted and the time limit runs out they can't come back. It was especially useful on the Sentinel level where her mental powers were useless against them, by converting the minor baddies to help fight the sentinels was a tactic I always employed. And with the sheer amount of mental resistant enemies around in both games, converting the non-mental enemies became a must with Jean. Incidentally, her resurrection is better than Xaviers. If one of your allies fall down a hole and dies, Xavier can't bring them back to life with his 'psychic shock'. Only jean can, due to her telekinesis when she resurrects them, she levitates them to the top as well. Great attention to detail
Hmm
Well i guess it just depnends on how you use her I guess?
Im not a big fan of Jean anyway ;)
Another dissappointing Character I thought Was Jubilee just because she seemed like, more like the sort of characters you love having, but just not playing, because they are a bit boring. She was a bit weak, and like.. on the morlocks. It was awful D: she would die all the time.
But she did get tougher towards the end so its ok.. I guess x]
Jubilee was in XML1 not 2. I'm replaying XML2 w/mods once again.. I am playing around with everyone at 99 at the moment to figure out what powers I like, and once again, I was reminded of how crappy Colossus was made in this game. I want to mod his Thunder Clap to act like his XML1 version... that's really all I care about!
Colossus was better in the first game. I loved everyone's extremes in the first as everyone was unique.
i ended up working on Colossus's Thunder Clap today.. http://marvelmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=3536.0
I argree with phoenix Cyclops, Sabretooth, Pyro, Professor X, Colossus and I believe Ironman were all crap, that's right CRAP!
I think they should have Ms. Marvel instead of Professor X and Professor X instead of Ironman. Instead of unlocking Ironman's armour you unlock portals to an alternate time line where Professor X was the host of the Phoenix and Chuck had Jean Greys powers or something like that.
Nah. We have a Jean we don't need the the Professor to have them. Its one thing if it is Phoenix though.
I agree with marvelfan12345, everything is set without the Professor comming around because he was just to underdeveloped in the game until his mod was created. The mod made him look a whole lot better.
Sorry what?
Let me clarify. Professor X was underdeveloped in this game and should have had a wider range of abilities besides the ones that were givin to him in the game. WHoever made the Professor X mod(sorry I dont remember who but great job), did a better job on developing him. Without that, he was just another regular.
Professor X is the worst character like silver surfer in MUA. They are like the same watch:
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Costumes: | 4 costumes the same,|2 cos. New X-Men and |
| Unless have mod | Astral Plane(XML1) |
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Powers: | 8 boring powers | 5-7 Weak powers |
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Silversurfer wasn't that awful. I found him quite great to play as and he was one of my favourite characters.
Yeah I didn't mind him.
neither did I. I actually enjoyed havnig him on my squad becaus he did an amazing amount of damage.
I just didn't like his costumes and extreme they were a bit lame...
Silver Surfer the worst character? Really? He was the most powerful. Powers surge just killed everything insight. And he was still underpowered in my op. But more powerful than any other characters in MUA.
He was always on my team
And unlocking him took me a whole 10 weeks, playing the game 3 times, serval costumes didn't work, he wasn't worth the trouble of getting in the end.
I just used unlock all characters code when I first played MUA... It's much simpler.. But now I play without codes.
BUT we are getting off-topic, again. So I still think Prof. x, Pyro, Colossus, Ironman and Sabretooth are a bit lame. Though I have played more with Cyke now and I have found him quite good actually.
I just hate some of Cyke's moves. Like Radiation beam. Please. The makers of VV said they won't include characters with bland powers who can only do one thing and I believe they are referring to Cyclops as all he really does is fire optic beams. MUA Cyke's powers should really be transferred to XMLII's Cyclops.
LoL. But Bishop and Toad were also kind of odd to play with. Bishop only did energy and gun type damages and sometimes it wasn't useful. The only time Bishop would be useful is when you need to charge or overcharge a device that is hindering you from reaching yoru goal. Toad was jsut annoying. his powers were underdeveloped and were a challenge to use.
I disagree. Out of all the characters I felt that Toad and Bishop were one of the better ones and great surprises.. They were developed extremely well. A lot of thought went into Toad. Chosing between his spit mastery and tongue mastery was an example of how well fleshed out he was, with also a unique double jump. He was a lot of fun to play with and so was Bishop. Great versatility of gun attacks and his passives were great too. His greatest weapons were his Energy absorption boost ability. It was fab. I hardly lost any health when it was activated. He became a regular on my team with Storm, Jean and Sunfire. Although sometimes I would trade him for Xavier.
The most disappointing character was Scarlet Witch in my eyes. She could have been so much better. Rogue as well was slightly disappointing.
Rouge could of had a power that takes other people's powers or could change her powers into something else for instance four different powers:
1) Fire Based Powers (sunfire/pyro)
2) Aggresive Based Powers (sabretooth)
3) Shape-Shifting Based Powers (mystique)
4) Earth Based Powers (avlanche)
And changes her icons into powers based on it. For instance let's take mystique for example:
1) Changes arm into a claw and scratchs enermy
2) Changes foot into a massive leg and kicks the enermy
uhm Unknown, i think that this would have been a little bit to complicated to have of those type of animations in the game. Just my opinion, i think hat it would get a little bit confusing?
Probably but what they had was time...