Poll
Question:
Playable villains in the sequel: yes or no?
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
I will probably be the minority here, but I'm gonna say no.
My reason is that in a roster of 30-40 characters, having only 4-6 villains seems too little and too off for a hero-villain alliance, while having more than that just takes too many slots that I would've rather have for more heroes.
Definitely NO. The one exception is if they had a VS mode or something like Marvel CTF. But not in the story. Especially not if they break the story.
"You may only select up to 2 options."
This isn't good...haha
No. Just give us lots of NEW bosses so we can have their models :)
well venom acts heroic at times aand Winter soldier is now good....wasn't there a few times were the ff made a temporary truce with therer enimies to fight a greater evil so the sme thing here: The minor villians (venom, doc ock, omega red, toad etc.) should be playeble but the big guys (ultron, doom, loki etc.) wont
I would buy the game, too, if it would be like muafan said, but I would say no.
Some small bosses maybe. Maybe several hero-converted villains like Radioactive Man, Winter Soldier, etc... Sometimes the villains are good, like in FoF, and XML2.
But as muafan said above, the heavy hitters won't be.
Quote from: iammingy on February 11, 2008, 11:13AM
"You may only select up to 2 options."
This isn't good...haha
Oh, crap. Well, it's the first poll I make. And I don't know how to fix it...
So, let's just pretend it has only 1 option. And if someone chooses both, it's not really a big deal anyways.
Okay, "small" villains playable, but only if the limit is at least 50 playable characters!
I want a few villains. It only makes sense given the current state of the MU, with people like Venom, Bullseye, and Taskmaster serving in the Initiative.
Of course this is all conditional that none of the spots are taken from Rogue and She Hulk. :D
I hope NOT!
I mean, sometimes it's good to be bad, but THIS is definitely NOT the case!
In XML2 it was fun to play like Juggs, Magneto and such but they are NOT completely evil characters... Apocalypse is an evil character and it would make NO sense at all for him to be playable along the good guys in an XML game...
For the same reasons i think that it would make NO sense to be able to play with Dr Doom or any other villain in MUA 2.
I would rather have "TONS of heroes" than "some heroes and some villains". In other words, i would rather have some more X-men (at least the original 5: Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Angel and Iceman but he's already in MUA) and some other heroes like Hulk and/or She-Hulk, Namor, some more Avengers like Sentinel or Ronin (i know there are mods but it would be nice to see Ravens original character for PC this time)...
I would not mind if there are some characters like "winter soldier" since he is a goody now, but i would rather have TRUE heroes.
Cheers
As much as I liked playing the Brotherhood in XML 2 and the four DLC villains in MUA Gold. I dont think it would be a good idea also to take those spots away from other heroes that were not in the first that people want in the second.
I would say yes (but) only in the danger room setting not in the gameplay because it messes up the story.
I wouldn't mind having playable villains. It could make sense if there's a giant threat like Galactus or Thanos and the world's heroes are simply not enough. And just because they are bad, I doubt the earth's villains wouldn't give a damn what happens to the planet.
Im gonna go with a yes..Like said before, the "heavy hitters" such as Doom etc should be stuck with being main NPC Villians. But for characters, ya the Brotherhood had to form an alliance to stop Apocolypse because a member on each side was kidnapped. Something like that could be the only justifiable reason why a villian should be playable. Of course though there is alternative means to bring them together but if not then don't have them as allies.
For an example in the sequel to MUA, I know alot of people are anticipating Galactus as the main villian, if any other villians on earth couldn't stop him, then that's the only way they could form an alliance. And I like how they portrayed that in X-Men Legends 2, when the Brotherhood and the X-Men couldn't get along, and neither trusted each other. Just builds the tension. And you could re-live some of the rivalries by having side missions when talking to a villian about their enemy. Such as Captain America and Winter Soldier etc because I know there are a ton more people can think of!
Yeah, that's right... it builds up the tension and everything...
BUT
I rather give that up if i am going to get more heroes. To be honest, there CAN be tensión among heroes if you want, you just gotta know where to look for it. Anyway, as i said before, i would rather have a huge hero roster, than a huge hero+villains one...
We have already seen chars like magneto & juggz in plenty of games... but namor, she-hulk, iron fist & blackbolt? Those are great hero characters that haven't had their big break in games yet... i would rather play them... it would be A LOT more original than gaving villains we have already played in other games ^^
Cheers
YES!
here's just a couple examples of characters they could use!
Dr.Doom :doom:
Apocolypse :apocalypse:
Mr.Sinister :sinister:
Mysterio :mysterio:
Venom :venom:
Mystique :mystique:
And my personal favorite:
CARNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :carnage:
No, i think it took away from the story a little to much
i'd say yes but not to every villain. Being able to play as galactus for instance wouldn't be particularly realistic. But people who have made alliances in the past out of convieniences sake, like Venom, Juggernaut, Magneto etc would be awesome.
If they put Villians in the game it would have to be like X-Men Legends 2 and be a threat that would call for the Alliance between heroes and villians. After all it is called Ultimate Alliance but it does not say Ultimate Hero Alliance or Ultimate Villian Alliance so Ultimate Alliance could also include Villians and Heroes working together to battle a very powerful threat like Galactus or the Beyonder for example.
Oh man, I hadn't even thought if they re-did Secret War. That would rock.
I think that the Thunderbolts should be added. Other than that, hell no!
Quote from: DarkVenomAndCarnage on March 01, 2008, 11:57AM
YES!
here's just a couple examples of characters they could use!
Dr.Doom :doom:
Apocolypse :apocalypse:
Mr.Sinister :sinister:
Mysterio :mysterio:
Venom :venom:
Mystique :mystique:
And my personal favorite:
CARNAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :carnage:
I think they're all great, but it wouldn't fit any story if Doom, Apocalypse and Sinister would be playable, they're just too big evil.
QuoteI think that the Thunderbolts should be added. Other than that, hell no!
Yeah, Please Thunderbolts, but they could count as heroes, not?
I always thought that they could make two separate storylines. One hero aligned, and the other villain aligned. I mean, an alliance between Magneto and Xavier, as happened on XML2, is kinda acceptable, but having Dr. Doom ally with S.H.I.E.L.D. against Galactus is plain ridiculous.
Essentially, you would do the same thing but with new cutscenes and dialogs involving PCs and NPCs. This way, you could play both villains and heroes, have their unique stories and endings (Imagine Dr. Doom with the Power Cosmic?) and don't make the quite cliché "Villain makes alliance with hero to beat up stronger villain".
That's just a thought.
Peace y'all.
i like the idea that you can only use them in vs mode. But not without a complete powerset, like in xml1
Quote from: The Raptor on May 09, 2008, 03:29AM
I think that the Thunderbolts should be added. Other than that, hell no!
Right. They do count as heroes anyway
And Toxin and Carnage could be costumes for Venom
Magneto would be a good character too
i like the idea of Marvel: Ultimate Aliance: Villains, but its not realistic. And yes there should be villains, but not if it corrupts the story line
No villans in main game play; in danger room, that's okay. It doesn't make sense if you're facing the Masters of Evil as villians. For example, making Doctor Doom playable and going up against himself instead of adding more heroes like Jean Grey darn it!!! Maybe cool for some but just ruins the story.
I love jean too hope to see her
Villains are in. Activision listed Venom and Green Goblin at their press conference last night.
So thers list then 30 heros. All of the most important heros from mavel villians are in. Man this is crazy I wanted more good heros and if theres room have villan but since theres list than 30 come on. I'm so mad!
I would have to say no. Unless of course it is a villian that flip flops between hero and villian sometimes. It kind of may mess up the story, unless everyone is fighting to save the planet from Galactus, which I would say that it is ok for.
There are some great villains, like Dr. Doom and Magneto, but I think there are too many greater heroes than villains.
I also fear this game will be not so different from X-men Legends 2. How will they explain why the villains work together with the heroes? I don't think we want the same story twice.
I think that you cannot generalize this question like this.
You have to know what the story is about, if it makes sense than yes, if not than no.
I think in MUA it made no sense that you could buy/download the villain pack though I like the idea to play Venom. And of course the proportions have to be right, not that you have 25 Heroes and 3 villains, that would be strange as hell.
Well, I say "Hell yeah"! Oh, come on, it's so cool to play as an evil. But, the best thing would be, that there would be two story mods, one for the good guys, one for the bad guys.
Indeed, 2 different storymodes could be rather exciting.
But I think they wouldn´t do that ´cause it is too much work to do.
Yeah, I think you are right. Oh well, I always loved the "good and bad guys vs the bigger evil" :D
Yes...that way I can get a Thunderbolts team
I would like some villians in this game like Greengoblin.
Yeah, me too, but I think that's impossible right now...Am I right?
I would say, "no". I mean, if it really sucks w/out villians, well, thats what marvelmods.com is ofr, right?
Ok, but then you will make those mods, because (I never made a mod, but) it's a very hard work...and long too!
I honestly don't want any villains in the game. The only fun ones would be the heavy hitters (Galactus, Mephisto, Dr. Doom) but they wouldn't be as powerful as they should be or the game would be to easy. The smaller villains would probably be boring (Venom is like a rip off of Spider-Man and the Green Goblin doesn't sound to appealing). I mean, Crimson Dynamo is Iron Man, Grim Reaper is a flying version of Deadpool. In fact, Deadpool is as close to a villain as I want any character to be. I mean, they're just mashing in some rip-offs or no names to make the game sound cooler. I don't even think the Green Goblin was in the Civil War storyline. Jack-o-Lantern was, and the Hobgoblin was in the Secret War. And unless they make Venom radically different from Spider-Man (which I doubt) I'm not buying.
If there is a versus mode villains should be playable. Otherwise I say they shouldn't, aside from DLC. And on the 'versus' note, they should have Capture The Flag. Doing CTF in this sort of environment would be awesome.
Quote from: Teancum on March 16, 2009, 12:47PM
they should have Capture The Flag.
I like that idea.