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Off-Topic => Video Games Talk => Topic started by: Jade Giant on May 30, 2008, 05:50AM

Title: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Jade Giant on May 30, 2008, 05:50AM
Not sure if this belongs in modding discussion or here, but here goes.

Kotaku wrote a story on how Link and Samus were originally supposed to be in the game, with some footage of Samus in action on the PS2. If you guys already knew this was a possibility, lock this thread and shame me forever. I just wanted to make sure you folks knew about it and if you knew any more information.

Link to story: http://kotaku.com/5011761/footage-of-samus-in-marvel-ultimate-alliance

:hulk_icon:
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Teancum on May 30, 2008, 08:08AM
Well, that's definitely a dev setup, as the power buttons don't show up below the character anymore, as well as some really subtle differences.  I wonder if they hid those on the Wii disc somewhere.  I'm 99.99999999999% sure they wouldn't have - that would create major friction with Nintendo if the files were ever found.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Gevth on May 30, 2008, 08:56AM
Rumor has it that Activision/Raven made them and proposed Nintendo to have them in the Wii version of M:UA. The problem was that the demo of those characters was made for the PS2, which didnt't make Nintendo too happy. So they basically refused the offer. Here's my "I-really-don't-know-if-it's-reliable" source: http://gonintendo.com/?p=44623

Also: http://www.spacejase.com/index.php?page=gallery

Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Teancum on May 30, 2008, 09:06AM
I very seriously doubt the fact that the demo being on the PS2 made Nintendo mad.  It's possible that the Wii version wasn't far enough along.  It's not like Activision asked for it to be on the PS2.  The idea that would Nintendo got mad is dumb.  (I know it's not your idea Gevth)  Obviously they would have been Wii exclusives, but were being demoed on the PS2 (or it's possible that what you see is Wii gameplay, but they had not make the icon graphics yet for Wii, thus the PS2 buttons).

Heh, that spacejase.com link also shows Captain Britain, Ultimate Super Skrull and a different version of Vision.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Sasquatch on May 30, 2008, 09:44AM
Quote from: Teancum on May 30, 2008, 09:06AM
Heh, that spacejase.com link also shows Captain Britain, Ultimate Super Skrull and a different version of Vision.

Can these images be used as skins? Sorry if it's a stupid question (and for my bad english) I 'm telling something about copy this images and 'fit' in another carachter model like Iammingy did with xbox 360 hulk and thing.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Teancum on May 30, 2008, 10:16AM
The four MUA ones can, those textures he posted are 256x256

Check out this clip from the dude's resume:

Quote* Led team of five artists over five months and created six fully playable exclusive characters for Marvel* Ultimate Alliance (Wii/PSP)

Let's see -- PSP: Hawkeye, Ronin, Capatain Marvel and Black Widow, and Wii: Samus and Link.  Sounds like the six characters to me.  There's also a way to contact him, though I'm 110% sure he doesn't have the rights to 'leak' the models out.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Sasquatch on May 30, 2008, 02:14PM
Oww The only problem is I don't know how to do that and I don't want to ask him for permission(Because my english is bad and i don't know how to ask this politely)
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: iammingy on May 30, 2008, 02:47PM
Very interesting stuff! I think that Ultimate SuperSkrull was actually in one of the PSP-exclusive comic book missions.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Sasquatch on May 30, 2008, 06:42PM
Quote from: Teancum on May 30, 2008, 10:16AM
The four MUA ones can, those textures he posted are 256x256

Check out this clip from the dude's resume:

Let's see -- PSP: Hawkeye, Ronin, Capatain Marvel and Black Widow, and Wii: Samus and Link.  Sounds like the six characters to me.  There's also a way to contact him, though I'm 110% sure he doesn't have the rights to 'leak' the models out.
And the captain britain? I never thought it like a exclusive character for some console
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: The Boy Sanga on May 31, 2008, 12:57AM
Man those Cap skins look good (although they should have picked the 80's or original costume over the 90's Excalibur version).

Although it is highly unlikely the guy'll be able to release any of the stuff he did, perhaps he may be able to inform us of the dev tools that were used and perhaps provide us with info on how to do some stuff such as custom animations.

Just a thought...
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Jade Giant on June 01, 2008, 11:01AM
Thanks for all your input guys, I wasn't sure what to think about this. I'd like to see if someone could get in touch with him and see if he can give us any useful tools or information.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: cvc on June 01, 2008, 02:42PM
The Dev's like we are,are always messin around with ideas that never make it to the game.they enjoy it as much as we do with creative idea's. 
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Jade Giant on June 01, 2008, 03:45PM
Quote from: cvc on June 01, 2008, 02:42PM
The Dev's like we are,are always messin around with ideas that never make it to the game.they enjoy it as much as we do with creative idea's. 

Then hey, maybe this guy will understand and lend us some fun stuff.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Teancum on June 02, 2008, 07:18AM
I'm sure he's under contract not to do so.  I mean we're talking about Nintendo and Marvel.  They own the rights to those characters, and technically anything he made at the time he was working for Vicarious Visions could not be publicly released.  I'm not 100% sure on that, but I would say I'm 95% sure.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Jade Giant on June 02, 2008, 11:18AM
Can't hurt to hope, though. Anyone willing to contact him?
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Teancum on June 02, 2008, 11:47AM
Honestly, I would VERY, VERY strongly recommend that you don't.  It's an annoyance.  Honestly, he's probably already been contacted 50 times by folks from all sorts of other sites since that video appeared on the net.  Plus, as someone who has done/been project lead on several large scale mods - nobody wants emails or PMs asking to release stuff that you would already to if you could.

Best to just leave him alone.  Devs know about modding communities, and they help out when they can.  Trust me, I've seen it in many, many communities.  There might even be developers here on the site who just appear to be regular users.  If he was able to or wanted to help, he would.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Jade Giant on June 02, 2008, 07:01PM
Understood, Teancum, thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Teancum on June 06, 2008, 11:01AM
I noticed the author of Samus/Link took down all of the MUA stuff in his website's gallery.  It's safe to say he's either been asked to take them down or was spammed with requests and so decided to take them down.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Venom on June 06, 2008, 06:27PM
I also noticed that but i thought he just put somewhere else on his site :D
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: iammingy on June 06, 2008, 06:31PM
Even the YouTube video is gone, too. I think they were asked to take down all those stuff instead of their own decision.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Emily Frost on June 09, 2008, 10:36PM
If Samus and/or Link were in- they would have had to have been removed in Alpha, because I worked on Call of Duty 3-Wii one row over from MUA-Wii. No Samus... No Link... Just an uproar when :hulk_icon: got cut.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: menneb on June 10, 2008, 08:27PM
No one ripped the video from Youtube before it went down? I kinda want to see it.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: iammingy on June 10, 2008, 09:59PM
Quote from: menneb on June 10, 2008, 08:27PM
No one ripped the video from Youtube before it went down? I kinda want to see it.

Watch this now before they get nuked...
http://www.n4g.com/News-153526.aspx
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: menneb on June 12, 2008, 10:56AM
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: Teancum on June 12, 2008, 11:17AM
The youtube vids are still there.  I searched for "Samus Marvel" and found it.
Title: Re: Samus and Link: Hoax/mod or real thing?
Post by: iammingy on June 12, 2008, 03:34PM
Oh, I was talking about this one embedded in the website:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRWMkr-pYVk

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Activision Publishing, Inc."
The vids will be uploaded again as soon as one is taken down. :rofl: