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So after a pretty succesfull Jean Grey vs Storm which was won by Jean Grey (60% vs 26%) thought we try the next hero vs hero.


(http://www.spider-man.info/Heroes/MisterFantastic/MrFantasticAd.gif) vs(http://www.eigenmeubelontwerp.nl/uploads/images/logo/spiderman2.jpg)
So imagine this; Mr. Fantastic in a fight with Spider-Man.

Will the sticking webs of Spider-Man be enough to captivate Reed Richards, preventing him from flabbering all around Peter Parker.

Or will Dr. Richards be too elastic and stretchy to be sticked to the wall or into a web.
What do you think?

Wow look what i started. I'm soo happy. This trend should continue. Interesting match up and well thought up. Spiderman is agile with the strength of a bear and speed and spider sense and many other qualities. While Mr. Fantastic is flexible,super strong and also quite agile. My first thought would be for a Spiderman win since he has got the Spider-sense on his side and he is quick but however one wrong move by him, would be an instead Mr. Fantastic win all Reed has to do is catch him and that's it. He'll break crush him like the bug he is. I'm gonna go with Mr. Fantasic. It will be very close though.

Mr Fantastic, definitely.

Spider-man vs the most intelligent person in the world who can create anything to stop anything out of a rubber band and a tin can? Spidey has no chance.

I have to go with Mr Fantastic too, he could just wrap himself around Spidey until he suffocates or just crush him to death

Quote from: Dihan on February 28, 2009, 02:03AM
Mr Fantastic, definitely.

Spider-man vs the most intelligent person in the world who can create anything to stop anything out of a rubber band and a tin can? Spidey has no chance.

interesting, i wasn't thinking of preparation. Maybe we should make it more clear. Make it an as-if fight, so no preparing to make machines etc, just a 1 vs 1 battle.

I'd go for a draw; If spiderman can fire his webs before fantastic manages to stretch he can't move anymore. On the opposite; if Fantastic wraps around spiderman before he can fire webs I think fantastic wins.

So i'm gonna go for a draw.

Oh please! Spider-man would win this thing. Maybe his the biggest brain, but Spider-man is more powerful and his web is sticky (A good trap and kapow!)

All things considered, Spidey wins 6 out of 10.

And besides: Spidey is really agile, so he can dodge Mr. F's attacks!

And besides: Mr Fantastic can dodge around things and make himself into a trampoline to dodge and bounce Spidey's projectiles back!

Well, this is weird, no? I mean, how can somebody bounce back a really sticky something? If you ask me, you can be a really bouncey trampoline if some gluey, sticky web would fly towards you, but yeah, he can dodge them.

Even a sticky substance has kinetic energy. Reed can absorb the impact and flex his body in such a way to repel it back. He can also make his body almost have the properties of liquid. Unless Spider-Man can cover him head to toe in web, instantly, then Reed can escape.

That's assuming that Reed can react fast enough to do all of that. Reed's powers are very interesting but are limited by his speed. He reacts at the speed of a normal human, even with his brain maximally compressed (as he has done in the past). Spider-man has too much to his advantage to lose. Spider-man is far faster than Reed. So fast that he has gotten the jump on both Speed Demon and Quicksilver. Spider-man's sidey sense, in combination with his speed, causes the world to move in slow motion, especially in battle sitations. This is, as stated in a comic, why Spidey comes up with so many jokes and one-liners while still being able to come up with a plan to take out the person he's battling. essentially, Spider-man can think faster than most people. This certainly makes up for any deficienies he may have when dealing with Reed's intelligence. Moreover, the webbing's chemical nature makes it hard for most things to escape from it or for it not to stick to it. Finally, I'm fairly certain that Spidey has already beaten the Fantastic Four before, including Reed.

Quote from: ThatGuy on February 28, 2009, 05:23PMMoreover, the webbing's chemical nature makes it hard for most things to escape from it or for it not to stick to it. Finally, I'm fairly certain that Spidey has already beaten the Fantastic Four before, including Reed.

Err... what about his new, "organic", web? Is it the same deal as the previous fabricated one?

He doesn't have organic webbing anymore. They changed it back to regular web-shooters.

Oh, great news!

C'mom peeps. Reed Richards needs your vote!

C'mon! This one is way too easy! Mr. Fantastic, of course! No sweat! He's the most brilliant man on the planet (way brighter than Parker, even though he's a genius as well) and Reed could just use his power and stretch his body to a blanket, wrap around Parker and asphyxiate him!

Quote from: xlehnsherr on March 01, 2009, 06:54PM
C'mon! This one is way too easy! Mr. Fantastic, of course! No sweat! He's the most brilliant man on the planet (way brighter than Parker, even though he's a genius as well) and Reed could just use his power and stretch his body to a blanket, wrap around Parker and asphyxiate him!

Except Spidey is too fast for Reed to pull that off and his spidey sense would warn him before he got a chance to it. And intelligence level does not equal an automatic win. If this were the case, Luke Cage would not have been able to beat Dr. Doom, which he did...in his own castle.

That's true, but think of it this way: Parker invaded the Baxter building and got caught by Mr Fantastic's defense system! Even with all his abilities! If machines created by Richards could do that, imagine what the creator can accomplish!

Reed with his equipment. Spidey if he is unarmed.

Quote from: xlehnsherr on March 01, 2009, 07:44PM
That's true, but think of it this way: Parker invaded the Baxter building and got caught by Mr Fantastic's defense system! Even with all his abilities! If machines created by Richards could do that, imagine what the creator can accomplish!

No he didn't. Spider-man waltzed in and beat the Fanstaic Four (He did something similar to the Avengers in Avengers Mansion when they had a full set of armed guards there as well). He wasn't even trying to. You may be thinking of Ultimate Spider-man which is completely different than regular Spider-man. And jst because the machine is good does not mean it's creator is better. Iron Man has built suits of armour that can function independant of him, but that does not mean he himself is more powerful than the armour he created. Forge can create machines capable of numerous things, but he himself is not more powerful than his own creations.

Spidey handled himself pretty well against all X-Men at once in Secret Wars!

Ok, Thatguy. Agreed. If Stark can create some armor, even if it's a looooooot stronger than himself, of course he's got a way to shut it down right?

But anyways, I vote for Richards for his genius and brilliant mind

One more VOTE for Spidey please! :D

NEVER! LOL MR. FANTASTIC ALL THE WAY

I said Spidey! He is agile, strong, fast, he has plenty web, smart and a sense of humor too! Maybe Reed is stronger, but without his toys, he is done!

2 more days before closing. Nice to see up till now i was right with the only vote for 'draw', since spidey and reed both have 9 votes:P.

Not funny...:D okay, funny, but I so really really want Spidey to win.

Allright that's it.
Spider-man and mr Fantastic kept shooting webs, extracting arms and building machines, but in the end; they ended up both on the couch with a beer watching "Neighbours". Neither could defeat the other one ;).

Anyhow; Voting is over; poll result is (as I predicted :D) a draw.
Cyclops and Wolverine are still battling (http://marvelmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=2996.0), so I'm nog going to open a new thread (yet). Think 1 thread at a time is best.

I voted for mister fantastic. I think Reed can beat most people who only have physical powers, cause he can just bounce off the attacks. I don't see how, for example, how the thing could beat reed. people with energy powers have a better shot, only top physically powered heroes could beat Reed, like Hulk or Gladiator.

the only thing that spider-man has that could actually have an effect on reed would be the webs, but still, they don't cause injuries, they just immobilize, and considering that reed can just stretch to attack, that wouldn't be very helpful.

Oh, but the voting is closed btw. So might as well lock this topic, though i left it open for a post-voteing-discussion. But it seems like we'll have our hands full on the new contests =D.