Oh dear... The world has ended.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/index.htm
Is it for real? If it is, dude, it's gonna suck big time! They're gonna make baby wolvies and cykes around!
Here's more:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/disney-to-acquire-marvel-entertainment-for-4b-2009-08-31
Well, it's not as bad as it looks. I mean, if they will make the same comics, then it's okay for me.
oh great... now they're going to girl everything up and screw the Marvel universe.
From the depths of a dark rain forest comes the evil druid who dare threaten happiness of all of the land by using his dark magic to transform the happy tree of love in to the sorrowful tree of despair! Will sunshine never envelope the land again? Find out if our most beloved hero, the Incredible Hulk Fairy can overcome this diabolical plan to save the happiness of the rain forest by using his incredible brute strength happy fairy powers to save the flowers everywhere! In theaters summer 2011.
Peter Pan eat your heart out.
Quote from: Burning Rage on August 31, 2009, 11:24AM
oh great... now they're going to girl everything up and screw the Marvel universe.
From the depths of a dark rain forest comes the evil druid who dare threaten happiness of all of the land by using his dark magic to transform the happy tree of love in to the sorrowful tree of despair! Will sunshine never envelope the land again? Find out if our most beloved hero, the Incredible Hulk Fairy can overcome this diabolical plan to save the happiness of the rain forest by using his incredible brute strength happy fairy powers to save the flowers everywhere! In theaters summer 2011.
Peter Pan eat your heart out.
This sounds like a wacky Barbie-movie-like thing. It scares me.
Are you working for Disney? :P :P
No seriously, They should call Marvel Missme if it will be bought by Disney.
That's it! All Marvel fans should do something against this Disney horror! And I'm not joking here dudes.
Does this mean Disney only has a movie contract with Marvel, or do they
own it?
Quote from: Burning Rage on August 31, 2009, 11:24AM
oh great... now they're going to girl everything up and screw the Marvel universe.
From the depths of a dark rain forest comes the evil druid who dare threaten happiness of all of the land by using his dark magic to transform the happy tree of love in to the sorrowful tree of despair! Will sunshine never envelope the land again? Find out if our most beloved hero, the Incredible Hulk Fairy can overcome this diabolical plan to save the happiness of the rain forest by using his incredible brute strength happy fairy powers to save the flowers everywhere! In theaters summer 2011.
Peter Pan eat your heart out.
Pirates of the Caribbean wasn't girled up, now as it?
Well it's up to Marvel to prevent titles such as Good Dogerine Origins, The Uncanny A-Folks, Not Afraid of Spiders-Man and Iron handglove on a Fist. Others like Luke out of the Cage and the mother of their child, Jessica Drewapicture as Not Afraid of Spiders-Woman and Namor the Submarinedriver should be prevented aswell. Mein Gott, not Ms. Marvel turning into Ms. Disney and Captain Mar-Vell into Captain Dis-Neey! :P
What's next? Disney trying to buy anime's like Pokemon and change it to Pokehontas?
Seriously, I won't cry if Marvel agrees with Disney but hopefully nothing changes when it comes to Marvel and their Superheroes. I like the characters, games and cartoons and I'll always like them, even if I would be 80 years old.
If Disney brings back Jean (it's so funny that my fav disney character is ariel and she is very similar to Jean in apperance and maybe even personiality) I'll be happy.
I'm more worried about the future of Marvel Mods, to be honest. Now that Disney will come to own all of Marvel's characters, will they take it upon themselves to get the site shut-down?
Don't give them the idea..
Well, what's their reason? I think the companies who worked on XML's and MUA are happy to see us fans create such a great community and bring the characters to life in games, and please people at the same time. That includes Marvel. Besides, Marvel would still have a share in all that.
They would shut us down if we tried to make money out of all our work, which we'll never do.
see, this is the corporate "big machine. it eats anything, and everything.
case of point:
coke. it owns about a third of all the soda companies in america, pepsi owns the other third, and the rest are independant
i'm just worried about the quality of resulting combinations.
case of point:
maxis. it was a pretty good game company, until ea took over. take the sims 2. basicly, to play it well you need a whole bunch of mods, and half of it's patches either skrew up your game further, or install monitering software on your computer. the sims three. you can use the disk to install five times and then it's worthless.
I dont really know if this is a bad thing yet. If it means more movies or cartoon versions, even live action of some stuff like Power Pack or Generation X, than i dont think its so bad. But if they are going to be messing with the comics or trying to clean some of them up (example bloody X-Force), than this sucks. Lol i also dont want a Hannah Montana/X-Men crossover.
Quote from: Dihan on August 31, 2009, 01:25PM
I'm more worried about the future of Marvel Mods, to be honest. Now that Disney will come to own all of Marvel's characters, will they take it upon themselves to get the site shut-down?
That's my main concern too. I don't think they will influence Marvel's editorial, big companies tend to not do that... all the time. But they do have tendencies to be more protective on their trademarks, and the money they can make with them.
lol hannah montana/ x-men XD X-Mentana right?
Why would Disney have to worry about income if they have enough to buy Marvel?
Big companies like throwing their weight around. It's as simple as that.
Quote from: Dihan on August 31, 2009, 01:56PM
Big companies like throwing their weight around. It's as simple as that.
and they have more resources to go after the littlest things.
I really think some people are making to big a deal of this. The worst disney will do is make new comic books for disney characters. They won't tamper with any of the regular books.
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on August 31, 2009, 03:05PM
I really think some people are making to big a deal of this. The worst disney will do is make new comic books for disney characters. They won't tamper with any of the regular books.
No one knows if that will be the worst disney will do, we cant really say what they will do. Disney has been known to mess with stuff to make it more family friendly. Having said that, Disney is still a business company and i dont think they will mess with something that is working/selling.
For now it doesnt sound bad but sooner or later they will want they'r grubby hands on marvel characters
What the f? how the heck could marvel agree to this?
Quote from: nodnerg on August 31, 2009, 03:36PM
For now it doesnt sound bad but sooner or later they will want they'r grubby hands on marvel characters
yeah! what will happen to fan favorite antiheros (and heroes) like wolverine, punisher and deadpool just to name a few.
I dont think we'll be seeing R rated wolverine, deadpool or punisher movies anytime soon. People have brought up the point that studios owned by disney already have but I think this is differant because they are being very public about it and they see marvels characters as a reflection on disney, but who knows time will tell
Okay this really isn't that bad. It's actually pretty great once you think about it. I mean Disney is not some stupid company; they're making billions of dollars cause they're great at marketing. They're not dumb enough to tamper with the actual comic book side of Marvel simply because that is not their territory. From this deal I see many more video games, movies, shows, and toys coming along. Disney has a movie come out every month or so and each one gets a pretty fun game too so I see this as a positive since they will definitely want to use Marvel characters now. Besides Disney isn't completely into the age appropriate theme. They OWN ABC and ESPN and those networks run some things inappropriate for certain age groups. They could so whip together a live action X-Men show to compete with NBC's Heroes. Disney likes to give their shows like 48353545355435354 episodes per season so the cartoons are going to feature more episodes. They also don't wait for special occasions, like movie releases, to put together a new video game so I see more marvel characters getting games a lot more frequently. And I'll admit some will probably be kiddy but not all. If you do some research you will be VERY surprised on what Disney releases, they just never directly put THEIR stamp on it. Marvel is in great hands, by next year I'm sure Marvel will be buzzing with various new products that we will all love!
This makes me very nervous. Disney has a nasty habit of turning things into asexual morally righteous tweenies boppers. And a even nastier habit of getting rid of everything that is not in that mold. If they start to mess up the x-men then im going to be mounting a mouse head on my well very soon.
I really think these are great news. you guys have such an stereotypical view of disney. the reality is that the current CEO of disney - Bob Iger - was given by the disney board the job of making disney a good name again and respecting the artistic freedom of the artists. Disney bought Pixar a few years back and they're doing great together. one of the reasons why disney bought pixar was because it had lost all the integrity in their movies because of studio interference. The Eisner era was financially great. in 20 years he incrased disney's value in 4000%. If disney was still such a yuppie company they would have never fired eisner.
BUT Roy Disney Jr. (walt's nephew)& co didn't want disney to be just a company, as they thought of disney as being so much more than that. that's why they hired iger and he's been doing a fantastic job at getting disney's "soul" back. they bought pixar so that they could use their know-how to make good movies with great messages and artistic integrity and now they're using this know-how to go back to tradicional 2-D animation (the frog princess and rapunzel seem like they're gonna be great!). John Lassater became the head of the entire animation department (2 and 3d) and he's an animation genious. Iger also improved the working conditions at the parks and increased the workers salaries in general well above inflation.
to be honest, I think the last time the world had such a great duo (an artist and an entrepreneur) was Walt and Roy Disney, and look what they have accomplished together.
several good news for the future:
- the quality of the cartoons will increase.
- imagine that marvel can have an animated universe and all the characters can have crossovers all the time and live in the same planet with the same rules.
- the movies can come out a lot faster cause there's a 55 billion company to back them up.
- instead of a few rides in the universal parks, marvel will very likely have a theme park of its own inside Disneyworld.
- the action figures will be better too, cause disney definitly know how to make toys.
- marvel will have a distributor for all their movies without spending a single penny.
- no delays in comics distribution, they will always have means to release everything in time.
this is good news people. don't worry, you won't see a crossover between uncle scrooge and tony stark or captain boing with captain america. at least not as long as iger is the ceo, marvel is in good hands. well, maybe howard the duck would be a great adult parody to the disney characters ^^.
just imagine how warner/dc is feeling right now. marvel alone while public was beating the crap out of DC in almost every way with a lot less money, now that they have disney on their side...wow!
and remember people, disney is not just about cartoons, they own miramax, touchstone, the history channel, abc and espn (like angel mentioned). they have already claimed that they don't plan to change marvel to be more disney-like. after all, marvel was doing pretty well on its own, they don't want to change it, they just want to make this profit pizza bigger and then take a huge slice.
My worry is nothing comes without a price, especially when disney is involved. My question is what is the price marvel will have to pay?
30 dolars plus 0.745 share of walt disney inc to every shareholder of Marvel...not a bad deal at all =P
man, now that marvel bought marvelman and DC lost the rights to superman's origin...marvel's gonna kick ass!
Just remembered that The Incredibles were backed by Disney and that is one of my FAVORITE super hero movies. I could so see a similar production in the future with an X-Men/MUA twist. And Nowhere Man reminded me of something when mentioning Warner. Warner is a company VERY similar to Disney. Just like when someone thinks Disney, Mickey mouse pops into your head. Well when someone mentions Warner Bros who pops into your head besides Buggs Bunny? It's the same type of relationship Warner and DC have and they have much more super hero movies then Marvel does. (At least by my count) Disney is simply going to be able to finance more projects at the same time as Marvel could not do so before. DC released Batman games, Superman games, Justice League games, and Teen Titan games all around the same time frame simply because they were backed by such a bigger company like Warner. Marvel is going to be baking up new goods on a daily base now!
oh, for you guys worried about the comic books...don't! the comics are what disney is least interested in. the big money comes from movies, cartoons and specially merchandise.
warner practicly doesn't interfere with DC COMICS as long as they mantain superman and batman regular titles so that they can make movies of them.
EDIT: hey, I just became a fantastic member! how bout that...do I get my superpowers now?
true i initially had worries about this, but it's not like disney is going to fire all of marvel's writers and make wolverine dance the cha-cha with snow white.
I do hope they fire one person though:
Greg Land. I hate him.
I don't like it...
" The new extraordinary X-Men comic in stores now! by Disney "
I just... Don't like the sound.
Maybe they'll open up a theme park in Orlando! In all likelihood, the Marvel name in terms of the comic will stay the same. This they don't want to jeopardize, because the comic fan represents their baseline. If the art stays true and the storylines are maintained, this area shouldn't loose the fan base. I think that Disney is more interested in the movie making side plus all of the merchandise associated with blockbusters. After all, Ironman was a tremendous success as was Spiderman.
I hope we get some sorta marvel related ride in Disneyland (i love disneyland), cant wait to take a picture with Wolverine or Storm lol :)
Or with Jean lol. I just hope Matt Fraction is fired.
There should be a separate topic named "who should Disney fire?" :D
PS: Jeph Loeb.
Yeah I say Matt Fraction and Ed Brubaker for ruining UXM. And if Grant Morrsion still works he should be the number 1 fired.
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 02:13PM
Yeah I say Matt Fraction and Ed Brubaker for ruining UXM. And if Grant Morrsion still works he should be the number 1 fired.
Grant Morrison? Why would he be the number 1 fired, his New X-Men run was one of the best. It was a critical and commercial success.
Definitely Greg Land. His art is just offensive.
Quote from: Dihan on September 01, 2009, 02:22PM
Definitely Greg Land. His art is just offensive.
All the smiling is just annoying, why is everyone always smiling?
He reuses the same poses all the time.
For example:
The line-art is a large X-Men splash page.
(http://www.4thletter.net/gregland.gif)
The box with Armour is a blatant trace.
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 02:13PM
Yeah I say Matt Fraction and Ed Brubaker for ruining UXM. And if Grant Morrsion still works he should be the number 1 fired.
Matt Fraction and Greg Land? yes.
Fraction is a "wannabe" writer who is ruining all the uncanny x men series and characters, starting with Cyclops, Emma Frost, Northstar, Dazzler and Pixie. I think that Greg Land made an acceptable work on Phoenix Endsong, but his other works are just awful.
Grant Morrison??? you must be joking, he's one of the best writers, his New X men run was extraordinary, he along Joss Whedon are the best x men writers from the recent years.
I hope that they keep the good comics like Astonishing X-men and X-force...
:emmafrost:
Yes Land was nice on Endsong but no more.
something i found somewhere online:
the top ten dreaded results of marvel being bought by disney:
10: Beauty & The Hulk - in this updated version of the animated Disney classic, Selena Gomez plays Dr. Bryce Banner, a talented physicist who learns a life lesson about self-image when her gamma-ray experiment creates unintended results.
9: Mutant High School Musical - It's a teen-angst musical, set at a high-school full of mutants!
8: Ultimate Jonas Brothers - The boy band's Monkees-esque antics take on a harder-edge; they all grow beards.
7: Herbie the Love Sentinel - Poor Herbie will be relegated to the junk-yard if he doesn't kill some mutants, but Emily Osment as a young Emma Frost wins him over to the side of good, and wins the Westchester 500 to boot!
6: The Wizards of Xavier Place - The three Russo kids find out they're not really wizards, they're mutants! Time to go to a new school...
5: Snow White and the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants - A lost Snow must take care of a band of cantankerous baddies. With Blob as Grumpy, and Toad as Dopey.
4: The Scarlet Witch - this will be a major movie event, with Miley "Hannah Montanna" Cyrus playing the troubled reality-controlling mutant, along with her annoying speedster-brother, Quicksilver, and special guest appearance by Billy Ray Cyrus as her father, Magneto.
3: Wolverine in Wonderland - Logan takes a tumble down the rabbit's hole, and hilarity ensues. "I'll show you 'off with his head, bub!'"
2: Hayao Miyazaki's Guardians of the Galaxy - actually, if this happened, we'd SO be there!
1: Muppet Avengers Assemble!
link: http://feeds.wired.com/~r/wiredgeekdad/~3/Jv-bTzvqs9I/
I guess this means that the end of Dark Reign will change and Mickey Mouse will be the one to topple Osborn -_-
Quote from: deedooo on September 01, 2009, 07:27PM
something i found somewhere online:
the top ten dreaded results of marvel being bought by disney:
10: Beauty & The Hulk - in this updated version of the animated Disney classic, Selena Gomez plays Dr. Bryce Banner, a talented physicist who learns a life lesson about self-image when her gamma-ray experiment creates unintended results.
9: Mutant High School Musical - It's a teen-angst musical, set at a high-school full of mutants!
8: Ultimate Jonas Brothers - The boy band's Monkees-esque antics take on a harder-edge; they all grow beards.
7: Herbie the Love Sentinel - Poor Herbie will be relegated to the junk-yard if he doesn't kill some mutants, but Emily Osment as a young Emma Frost wins him over to the side of good, and wins the Westchester 500 to boot!
6: The Wizards of Xavier Place - The three Russo kids find out they're not really wizards, they're mutants! Time to go to a new school...
5: Snow White and the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants - A lost Snow must take care of a band of cantankerous baddies. With Blob as Grumpy, and Toad as Dopey.
4: The Scarlet Witch - this will be a major movie event, with Miley "Hannah Montanna" Cyrus playing the troubled reality-controlling mutant, along with her annoying speedster-brother, Quicksilver, and special guest appearance by Billy Ray Cyrus as her father, Magneto.
3: Wolverine in Wonderland - Logan takes a tumble down the rabbit's hole, and hilarity ensues. "I'll show you 'off with his head, bub!'"
2: Hayao Miyazaki's Guardians of the Galaxy - actually, if this happened, we'd SO be there!
1: Muppet Avengers Assemble!
link: http://feeds.wired.com/~r/wiredgeekdad/~3/Jv-bTzvqs9I/
:rofl:
I concur. That's all I have to say about this.
The only one that i have read that made me laugh was Finding Namor, lol
Yah and we'd have characters like
- Kermit the Frost, The Green Queen
- Sabretoothfairy
- The new penguin movie Silver Surf's Up
- Donald Blake, the thunderduck and son of Aladin
- Nicky Mouse, director of shield.
No thanks.
In the end it's still Marvel's decision. If they agree, I also hope that the Marvel style and gore stays in.
If they are going to sell something, they have to sell Howard the Duck. I mean wth?
Here's one good thing about Disney buying Marvel:
They could make a Power Man and Iron Fist - Heroes for Hire TV series.
There was an article in ign mentioning their wishlist for TV series they would like Disney to produce, and since reading that one, I'm hoping Disney takes notes. Throw some guest appearences of Daredevil and Spider-Man in the early episodes, and you could get a hit TV show out of it.
Quote from: Gevth on September 02, 2009, 11:47AM
Here's one good thing about Disney buying Marvel:
They could make a Power Man and Iron Fist - Heroes for Hire TV series.
There was an article in ign mentioning their wishlist for TV series they would like Disney to produce, and since reading that one, I'm hoping Disney takes notes. Throw some guest appearences of Daredevil and Spider-Man in the early episodes, and you could get a hit TV show out of it.
If it would be a cartoon, like the Spectacular Spider-man, then YAY
You all are crazy. They won't do that.
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 01:40PM
You all are crazy. They won't do that.
rude, we dont call you crazy :(
I mean with this situation. Disney won't wreck Marvel as it is fine and selling well. I'm suprised with all of this stuff with almost every post having some sarctastic comment about what Disney is going to do to Marvel.
Most of them are just jokes, just having fun with the whole thing. I doubt they'll change anything since everything at Marvel is working right now, but that still doesnt mean there wont be any changes. Its a discussion board, thats what we are doing :D
I agree that Greg Land is getting repetitive, but whiteking is right, he did a great job at endsong. Plus, he drew some of my favourite Storm imgs ever:
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/229/79846-107292-storm_super.jpg)
He has talent, but he really should try different poses and faces. But you really can't put him is the same category as people like Liefeld. I wouldn't fire him.
I'm with Gevth, out with Loeb! He sucks!
He is nice at covers but not really comic artwork.
exactly! that sums him up perfectly.