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Title: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: kain6th on November 01, 2009, 04:52PM
I was just wondering if there's a mutant or superhero in the Marvel universe who could defeat Apocalypse. And if there is say how they could do it. I'm no comic expert so I might be ignorant at this, but it seems Apocalypse just can't be beaten.

:apocalypse:
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on November 01, 2009, 04:53PM
Mutants

Magneto
Jean Grey
Scarlet Witch
???Professor X???
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Dihan on November 01, 2009, 05:08PM
Any Omega Level mutants could beat him easily:

Jean Grey (and her many incarnations and offspring)
Iceman
Elixir
Scarlet Witch
Franklin Richards
Mister M
Vulcan
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Nowhere Man on November 01, 2009, 05:09PM
several cosmic entities such as The Gradmaster, Death, Eternity, Galactus, Phoenix Force, Living Tribunal, The Stranger, Korvac, all Celestials, Ego The Living Planet, Beyonder, Kubik, Uni-Mind, Chronos and so on.

Magical entities: Gaea, Odin, Zeus, The Vishanti, Dormammu, The Octessense, Ch'ton, Set the Serpent God, Demiurge...

some super heroes such as: Thor, Silver Surfer, Nate Grey, Blackbolt and Doc Strange definitely have a good chance of winning.

some villians: Mephisto, Thanos, Surtur, Molecule-Man, Proteus and Maelstrom.

maybe: Hulk, Annihilus, Sentry, Mister M...

on power peaks: Scarlet Witch, Franklin Richards, Nova.

EDIT: oh, and I disagree that any omega lvl mutant can defeat him. Being omega only means illimited potential for power, not effective power. very few omega lvl mutants have powers developed enough to face Apocalypse.
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Post by: Dihan on November 01, 2009, 05:31PM
Kind of. Iceman has the capacity to do it - he just has his own barriers to overcome. Elixir could just touch Apocalypse and do anything to him. The rest can all just either tear him apart from an atomic level or just wipe him out of reality.
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Post by: MarvelFan12345 on November 01, 2009, 05:33PM
Yeah Iceman needs to learn his full potential. Storm could possibly do it. And Elixir, Franklin, Vulcan, Mr. M, Rachel, and X-Man. (adding on to my list here).
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Post by: Shauny7488 on November 01, 2009, 08:42PM
Magneto did already.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: kain6th on November 02, 2009, 08:10AM
So does he have some weakness that these characters can exploit? What is it?
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Dihan on November 02, 2009, 08:51AM
I'll list what Mister M can do:

Heal instantly
Control all machinery
Negate or augment mutant powers
Intangibility
Can scramble organic molecules
Can produce any and all forms of energy
Can control any and all forms of energy
Can control all forms of matter
Use energy to make himself impervious
Create and evolve lifeforms and himself

Mister M is basically a god. He could simply reverse Apocalypse's evolution and make him a monkey with no powers. Then do whatever he wants.

Others can just wipe him out of reality.
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Post by: Nowhere Man on November 02, 2009, 09:49AM
the big if is apocalypse's celestial technology based armor. it's impossible to predict to what it can protect him from. remember that the celestials are the ones who created mutants in the first place.
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Post by: Dihan on November 02, 2009, 10:21AM
That armour was a part of Apocalypse's original body. Which has since been destroyed. He's still highly resistant and has the Celestial's techno-organic virus, but he just doesn't have all that invulnerability that he used to have.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: ThatGuy on November 16, 2009, 04:14AM
Elixir can't handle Apocalypse. Apoc has vast psionic powers that can handle Elixir. Even his astral form would be too much for him to handle. Apoc's inherent powers grant him all sorts of physical advantages anyways.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Dihan on November 16, 2009, 04:21AM
Elixir can rewrite his own DNA so theoretically he could make himself immune to psionic powers.
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Post by: ThatGuy on November 16, 2009, 07:10AM
There's no such thing as immunity to psionic powers though. Telepathy, maybe (even this is a stretch), telekinesis, no. In any case, Apoc's ability to restructure himself at the molecular level should allow him to give himself any power he desires is part of the basis for all the other powers he has.
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Post by: TEGC Rocco on November 16, 2009, 03:39PM
 :cyclops: If Cyclops could learn to control is powers he might be able to. He has the ability.
:iceman: I agree with Dihan and MarvelFan12345. Iceman could if he had met his potential.
:galactus:  Galactus could easy. Just step on him, if he could fit in the room.
:wolverine: Wolverine might. He could just slash him to bits if he had enough time to get to him.
:hulk_icon: and :colossus: They could just whale on him.
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Post by: piutebob on November 16, 2009, 03:58PM
Would Stan Lee battle Armored be able to? :P
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Post by: Nowhere Man on November 16, 2009, 04:00PM
wolverine, colossus, cyclops? oh, come ooon.

it's useless to slash apocalypse to pieces, he can regenerate himself from a single cell, kinda like mister sinister.

agreed on Iceman.

Elixir may be able to some years from now, with a lot of training. but he's not up to the challenge YET.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Scabbia on December 11, 2009, 04:13PM
Rogue could have when she was overloaded with powers. If she would have let herself go, talk about destroying everything... but now that she's lost all them powers and is back to the way she was originaly, there's no way.
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Post by: victorcreed on March 11, 2010, 04:40PM
In his prime i bet Cable could do it.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Seth on March 12, 2010, 02:43AM
Hey were talking about Apocalypse here!... How in the world could  :colossus: :cyclops:  :wolverine: beat him... I think that  :polaris: (since  :magneto: did it) and  :storm: could defeat him if they use all the power they have to the max
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: hound1390 on March 16, 2010, 08:49AM
Jean Grey, Magneto, or Stan Lee
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: LX - Rampage on March 16, 2010, 09:37AM
If it's just mutants, then just a few. If the whole Marvel Universe, then a lot of them could.
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Post by: mj fan on March 16, 2010, 02:08PM
Strife could do it too
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Post by: xxxxx on March 19, 2010, 02:42PM
Onslaught probably could.
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Post by: mj fan on March 21, 2010, 07:57AM
And Phoenix /Dark Phoenix
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Post by: shinden on March 26, 2010, 02:49PM
Howard the Duck and the old Cypher
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Yartek on April 15, 2010, 04:40PM
Squirrel Girl. She's already taken down Doctor Doom, Modok, Terrax and Thanos, so Pocky shouldn't be too much of a stretch. :)
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Lobez on April 16, 2010, 12:06AM
The Sentry could own him easily, so could the Beyonder.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: mj fan on April 16, 2010, 08:40AM
And Hulk
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Seth on April 16, 2010, 09:58AM
Well...Silver Surfer could, Scarlet Witch maybe and Abraxas for sure
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: mj fan on April 16, 2010, 11:27AM
maybe Gladiator and Hyperion , Black bolt
Eternity, Thanos, The Living Tribunal, Ego the Living Planet for sure
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Post by: chuckhole on April 18, 2010, 06:24PM
Quote from: Yartek on April 15, 2010, 04:40PM
Squirrel Girl. She's already taken down Doctor Doom, Modok, Terrax and Thanos, so Pocky shouldn't be too much of a stretch. :)
Right you are! Her power set should include being unbeatable against extreme level opponents.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: cyadin on April 22, 2010, 05:18AM
Blackbolt could just scream in his ear and boom, no more head or city they are fighting in:) Also i bet sentry can take him
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Teancum on April 22, 2010, 07:49AM
Squirrel Girl.  She's beaten like everyone, and she rules.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Noscho on April 23, 2010, 04:34AM
Silver Surfer and Proteus, I guess. But since Proteus needs a "host", I dunno it will count as solo.
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Jeanfan321 on April 23, 2010, 05:42AM
Dark phoenix will just melt him in a split second
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Post by: mj fan on May 01, 2010, 06:56AM
The Beyonder, Cosmic Spider-Man, Celestial...
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: vengance777 on July 13, 2010, 05:21AM
The Beyonder and Galactus can defeat him easily
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: tymaca321 on July 13, 2010, 01:05PM
Scarlet Witch, i mean she caused M day. So Apoc shouldnt be a problem for her
Jeannie/Dark Phoenix Dont need a reason i guess :P
Rogue, she beated him in X-men Evelution
Gambit at full power, poke *bam*
Galactus :P

Lotsa peeps could beat him
Including squirrels and ducks

Howard the Duck you ROCK!
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: Lieutenant#61 on July 13, 2010, 01:20PM
If invisible woman got better control of her powers I bet She take him down
Title: Re: Purely comic book wise, is there anyone who could defeat Apocalypse solo?
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 13, 2010, 06:35PM
I'm going to make a new list.

Jean and all her children (Rachel, Nate Grey, Stryfe, and Cable if he could use his powers to the fullest)
Scarlet Witch
Franklin Richards
Galactus
Thanos
Vulcan
Hulk
Thor
Onslaught
Sentry
Beyonder
Captain Marvel
Silver Surfer
Magneto
Polaris

???
Dr. Strange
Magik
Rogue
Storm
Iceman
Elixir
Quasar
Nova

So quite a few actually and maybe even several more.