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Title: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on July 29, 2011, 10:37AM
(http://www.justcause2mods.com/images/fbfiles/images/WV.jpg)

Wolverine
strength: can lift 1 ton, Healing factor, razor sharp adamantium claws and bones, rage, great martial artist, feral senses...

Venom
strength: can lift 25 tons, symbiote healing, webs, speed, rage, can stick to almost any surface, shape shifting, invisibility...


I would go with Venom(Eddie Brock) because he is generally stronger than Wolverine(James Howlett aka Logan)

I've seen many people on the internet vote for wolverine but here are the facts:
Wolverine's claws proved useless against Brock's symbiote in many comics and games. And Wolvies healing wouldn't help him because Venom would rip his head off. Because Wolverines bones are made of indestructible metal but his cartilage between the bones isn't because if it were he wouldn't be able to move. So he is very much killable. Venom is stronger and much faster, he is fast as Spider-man and Spidey can dodge a bullet lets see Wolvie do that. Venom is vulnerable to sonics and fire but he can endure fire but not sonics. And to top it all off, Venom to, has remarkable healing.

So Wolvie has little hope Lets see what a Wolvie fan will say because it is clear by now that my favorite MARVEL character is Venom!
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on July 29, 2011, 06:45PM
I think you could have posted this in the VS game to see what people would say. And I think the reason you believe Venom would win, well most of the reason is, is because your a Venom fan. I'm a fan of neither but I believe Wolverine would win. I know his claws would not be worthless in this fight. Its not like Venom can't be hurt by them. And Ive never seen anyone rip off someone elses head in a comic before Im sure its happend but most likely not alot at all. So I dont see that happening, and the whole dodging a bullet thing real doesn't play a factor in this fight as neither of them would be shooting at each other. Venom may be able to dodge a bullet but Logan could most likely cut it in half, or just get hit by it and heal. So I believe Wolverine would be the winner, but I know it would most likely be a hard battle for the two...
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: hiddenhope213 on July 30, 2011, 01:26AM
yeah i think wolverine would win
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: fox456 on July 30, 2011, 06:19AM
Venom would win.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Daken Howlett on July 30, 2011, 06:34AM
Wolverine would win,he already faced apocalypse who is almost a god,and fought Magneto who could break his bones in a second.He faced almost every villain and he almost never lose,Venom cant rip Wolverine head off because he doesnt have super speed but Wolverine have the speed of a animal(i dont know if that confirmed).Wolverine claws are made of adamantium so he can make sonic,and Venom is vulnerable to it,so definitely Wolverine would win another battle.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on July 31, 2011, 02:57PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHvWnzxcL30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHvWnzxcL30)

I think Venom would win if they had a fight. Wolverine won against all kinds of guys because he was a "good" guy not nice but he fought for good and you can't make evil win in  the end that was the same thing with spiderman Venom could rip him thousands of times heck Spidey admitted it but Spidey won because he's the hero. Bad guys can only win in "What If" comics

No help no weapons only characters fight to the dead:
If you pit Venom and Wolverine in one arena VENOM would win I think.
If you pit Venom and Spider-man in one arena VENOM wins.

And we don't even have to start with if Eddie was Anti-Venom he has no weakens that Spidey or Wolvie could use and his strength level is 70 tons and he has all kinds of powers.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on July 31, 2011, 02:59PM
Quote from: Eddie Brock Venom on July 31, 2011, 02:57PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHvWnzxcL30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHvWnzxcL30)

Thats just a game
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: SuperNatural-Witch on July 31, 2011, 07:27PM
Vemon takes this.. he  could wrap around wolverine's arm and hold his claws still. rendering him incapable of movement
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 01, 2011, 08:36AM
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10500000/Wolverine-marvel-comics-10535949-400-606.jpg)

It's TIE for now 3:3
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Daken Howlett on August 01, 2011, 04:33PM
 I remember seeing an issue of civil war side story, I think it was the x-men one, where it shows Wolverine's skin completely melted off by lava or something and it looked like he was still alive,so a simple...black goop woudnt hurt him at all.Wolverine does have an advantidge on Venom because Wolverine has the claws that can cut Venom's many tentacles and maybe even his tounge so I think that Wolverine would win,but Venom would give a hard fight.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 04:03AM
Wolvie survived the lave because it melted everything except the bone marrow. But wolverine can be killed easily Venom is far faster, I don't know why everybody thinks Venom slow he can even sometime surprise Spidey with his speed but spidey is faster.

Wolvie can only hurt Venom if Venom wants it, like in the comics Venom lets wolvie scratch him because he knows that wolvie can't hurt the symbiote, that the same thing with bullets.

So I think Venom would win easily because he could never let wolvie catch him, rendering the claws useless. And concerning the healing factor, Wolvie is far from unbeatable but Marvel can't allow for such a character to be killed. Wolverines bones are made of indestructible metal but his cartilage between the bones isn't because if it were he wouldn't be able to move. So he can be decapitated very easily by Venom.

Venom could decapitate him and throw his body parts in the Ocean or heck as soon as Venom grabs wolverine he could jump in the Ocean and submerge and leave him at 50 m below the sea surface, Venom can breath underwater and Wolvie would sink even better because of the adamantium skeleton. Do you see the IRONY Wolverines greatest weapon will be his downfall.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: BLaw on August 02, 2011, 04:20AM
QuoteVenom is stronger and much faster, he is fast as Spider-man and Spidey can dodge a bullet lets see Wolvie do that.

Wolverine doesn't need to dodge a bullet, he takes bullets for breakfast. Chuck Norris takes bullets, breakfasts and Wolverine and Venom for breakfast.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 06:58AM
Lol just thought I put this up there http://www.nochucknorris.com/ since chuck norris was brought in now :P
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 08:00AM
Venom doesn't need to dodge a bullet even more than Wolvie. Hit wolvie with a desert eagle 50AE or Barett M107 50cal and he will fall down and regenerate, Venom would just stay there and laugh and maybe even shoot the bullets back at you.

But I just mentioned the the bullet dodge to demonstrate Venom's speed, I don't know why people always mention "wolverine doesn't need to dodge a bullet" heck Venom can take bullets far better than Wolverine.

Venom doesn't need to dodge a bullet but he CAN and wolvie doesn't need to dodge a bullet but even if he wanted he COULDN'T.

Venom is faster, stronger, smarter, better at healing (symbiote), has webs that can incapacitate wolverine just with his hands down than the claws will do him no good. Wolvie can't even breath under water Venom could drown him at least beyond the other million ways that Venom could kill him. Venom wins all the way.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 08:05AM
I dont think the bullet thing has anything to do with this I doubt they would be shooting each other. And wolverine can just put his claws in front of his face and the bullets wouldn't hit him. And I still dont think Venom would be fine and dandy will being stabbed by the strongest metal. And there is a person in the venom suit, so just rip off the Venom and kill whos inside problem solved
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 11:55AM
That's the ting the Venom symbiote heals instantly. Believe me I've read allot of comics in which Venom and Wolvie battled.

Wolverine gave Venom a direct hit in the chest and as soon as he took his claws out of Brock, Eddie healed. Venom's healing is better than Wolvies allot.

BTW you guys brought up the bullets I just said that Venom is faster than Wolvie ALLOT and that he can dodge a bullet if he wants.

I DIDN'T MEAN THEY WILL SHOOT AT EACH OTHER I NEVER SAID SUCH A THING.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 11:59AM
Bullets were talked about in your first post. And if they aren't shooting at each other, then its not needed info. Like I said Wolverine can just rip the venom off anf kill Eddie, Im sure the Venom suit has a weekness like in the movie it was the giant bell.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: BLaw on August 02, 2011, 12:53PM
It wasn't just the bell. It's been known in the comics that the symbiotes save one, are weak vs loud sounds.

Oh boy, would it be fun if Venom kicked Wolverine in the stressballs so Wolverine makes a loud female scream-sound and defeating Venom that way xD

Both can be knocked out. Venom ain't immune to a knockout. And he mostly adapts to his surroundings only. Wolverine adapts to both surrounds, situation and the enemy due to combat experience for many years.

Sorry i'd have to say Wolverine by far. Despite Venom's traits and abilities, they don't always make the difference.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Polygone on August 02, 2011, 01:33PM
Yep, Wolverine would defnitly win

The game example shown is just plain simple, because Venom has to win for story purposes
If Marvel would make an actual fight with the two, Wolvie would also win

Venom ain't immune to damage, Wolverine also ain't immune to damage

Wolverine would stuck his claws in the Venom suit, and rip it in half
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 02:20PM
Wolverine stuck his claws in Venom a thousand times in allot of comics and he couldn't rip the symbiote of. Venom would rip Wolvie apart.
Venom beat carnage, Juggernaut, wolvie couldn't do Chocolate egg to him. Wolverine has problems with sabertooth nuff said and even Spidey could beat Wolverine and he is scared Chocolate egg of Venom.

Wolvie is one of the weakest characters in marvel as much as we love him.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 02:24PM
Lol Wolverine isnt one of the weakest. Its just because he is put up against god like people.... hello Jean grey. They show she can't beat him but we all know she can, and if she "can't" Venom cant either. The way you talk about Venom makes me think you think he is unbeatable. Im sure Wolverine could rip off the Venom suit, Wolverine is a lot stronger then you make him sound. For the man who has the strongest metal in him you make him sound like he is a little girl with plastic forks for claws
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 02:26PM
Venom is far from the strongest his strenght is only 25 tons and Wolvies is a puny 1 ton compared to other characters he is a weakling.
(http://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/wvpv4.jpg)
Wolverine has skills but against Venom he is outmatched. Wolverine only beat the other "strong" caracters because he had help from other like 5-7 characters

This would have left only the skeleton of Wolvie and Venom is unharmed:(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/justgeneral14/Venom/granades.jpg)

Venom even survived a rocket with fire and every thing if that didn't tare of the symbiote wolve sure couldn't:(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/justgeneral14/Venom/tank.jpg)
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 02:35PM
Wolverine has beat strong characters on his own many times, being able to lift more tons doesn't have a lot to do with everything. Wolverine is was stronger then you are making him. You really make him weak. Im sticking with Wolverine because he is way stronger then you make him. If Spider man can stop the Venom Wolverine can
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 02:43PM
If you were hit by 25 tons it would matter.  :venom:

Anatomy 101 if Venom hit wolvie in the head it would have ripped it of, his skull is from indestructible metal but his head is connected to his neck by cartilage but it wouldn't be ethical if MARVEL had done that to one of the most popular and one of best sold character Wolvie is an underdog that is why we like him.

There was a better feat in marvel comics presents where Venom laughs off Wolverine shoving his claws into his chest.

Physical attacks do almost nothing. In order to hurt him, you have to have Colossus level strength and even then sometimes Venom's showings have allowed him to laugh off attacks from the class 100 Juggernaut but I'll only use average showings here.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 02:46PM
I dont like Wolverine, nor Venom. This is just getting silly. Im sticking with Logan. Like said in this topic Venom isnt immune to anything, Loud noises made the venom suit freak out in the movie Wolverine can just do this and rip off the suit.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 02:51PM
The movies are crap I don't even take them into consideration they are another universe I am talking about Earth 616. Venom couldn't be killed like in Spider-Man 3.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/justgeneral14/Venom/2carnagevenom19.jpg)

Venom has a small weakness for fire and a big one for sonics but not the one like in spider-man 3 that is just crap. In the comics Eddie learned the symbiote to suppress the pain of fire he is still in pain but it doesn't hurt him that much.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 02:56PM
Obviously the sound works aganist him. The movies are based off of the comics, so they used the comics to come up with the sound thing. So it works. Im done with this. Im sticking to Wolverine. Your trying to fight my thought on this every post. I just believe Wolverine would win I posted what I believe, but you turn everything done, when I know the points I pointed out along with the others are right. Your a Venom fan so you aren't going to believe Logan would win, if you were a Logan fan you would believe Logan would win. If your in the middle like me and dont really care you pick who you believe would win and thats what I did. And first of all if this is the 616 univerese and we are doing Eddie Brock venom he no longer has that Black Venom suit he is the Anti Venom....
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 03:04PM
OKay so Eddie Brock WINS he's Anti-Venom, he can lift 75 tons, has all kinds of powers that I don't want to mention now, has no weaknesses except the POISON that wolvie can't use and even if he could Venom takes the Murmasa blade and kills Wolverine with one strike.

And I am to picking a "fight" you say what you think and I give some more details and facts that, why I think Venom would win that's it. Sorry if I offended anybody :venom:
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 03:09PM
Well you cant just change the venom now as you used the original so this is an old Venom fight. But im finished with this. I express my thoughts on it and you just have to come back annoyed and fight aganist it even tho I know these are true facts about Venom's weakness. Deal with my thoughts on it and see what others say. This should be a fun thing to see peoples thoughts and why not to have people type up their thoughts and why etc and you come back at it and try to make Venom god like aganist him. I dont care who wins both of them could die for all I care. And if like you said Wolverine always has help then he would in this situation according to you so then im sure Venom would lose.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Eddie Brock Venom on August 02, 2011, 03:14PM
No no I am not changing Venom this is the battle in the time till Brock had the Venom symbiote in the 616 time but you said: "And first of all if this is the 616 univerese and we are doing Eddie Brock venom he no longer has that Black Venom suit he is the Anti Venom...." So I just said if that's the point than.

Somebody says 1 "why" wolvie :wolverine: would win I say 10 "why" Venom :venom: would win.
Title: Re: Venom VS. Wolverine who would win?
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 02, 2011, 03:18PM
I know thats what I said but I was just going by what you said. So since this is the Black Venom suit this really isnt 616 its nothing really just a fake battle that people are choosing sides for. I stick by Wolverine.