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Poll
Question: What are your thoughts on "Marvel NOW!" so far, now that Spider-Man's been replaced?
Option 1: I hate it.
Option 2: I don't care much either way.
Option 3: I like it.
Option 4: I like some of it, but I hate a lot of other things in it.
Option 5: I just wish Peter Parker was still Spider-Man.
Title: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 12, 2012, 07:50PM
So what do you think of "Marvel NOW!" so far? Personally, I dislike it.

For example, here's my biggest complaint: they're relaunching Spider-Man. They're replacing Amazing Spider-Man with what they're calling Superior Spider-Man. They're making him "darker" so likely not wisecracking anymore... Plus, they're trashing the costume. They're replacing the blue with black. It looks too "Halloween" for my taste.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on October 12, 2012, 08:23PM
I like it for the most part, I mean Spiderman isnt the only thing getting new relaunch type titles. Avengers and X-Men are both getting a bit of a redo, not completely, but they are. I am happy for some changes, but we will see how it plays out I guess, I mean honestly if they don't end up getting enough sales or they just dont like Marvel Now they could turn it into an alternate universe or just relaunch everything again and turn it back to the way it used to be. One of the things I am hoping for is that the O5 X-Men make some things right again, and that they stay, and if not all of them then just Jean. And not just because I am a Jean fan but she is the only one not their from O5 anymore and I think she could do the most damage control, as long as they dont repeat history and just kill her off again. I just dont want it to become a huge thing with bringing them into the present they help out a little and then leave again.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: mj fan on October 13, 2012, 12:33AM
Exactly the same here.But!
QuoteOne of the things I am hoping for is that the O5 X-Men make some things right again, and that they stay, and if not all of them then just Jean. And not just because I am a Jean fan but she is the only one not their from O5 anymore and I think she could do the most damage control, as long as they dont repeat history and just kill her off again.

The problem for me is that they make a Jean coming from nowhere just to save the scenario. I was hoping the "real Jean" to come back and stay (so that she could kick Cyc' ass cause I can't stand him anymore, arrogant, idiot..)Anyway Not  2 different Jean. You know and what is boring me the most is that  she'll confront Emma. I can't stand the fact that Emma could handle her (just because she's yound. Less experience.) I always had in mind that Jean was a badass Stong, the best.
By the way i have to say that the Phoenix history was full of stereotypes. so boring. I wanna See jean..i mean the real But they just ruined the character trying to make evereything so dramatic. FAIL
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 13, 2012, 10:16AM
The only reason why I don't go "Bye Marvel, now only DC is left for me", is because of the simple fact, that I can't decide which comic book company is more screwed up comparing them to their own past versions. Why change stuff up all the time? I mean, why fix something, when it's not broken? Or better yet: when something is somewhat broken, why jump at it with a hammer? At times, I just can't understand what they want. And the saddest thing is the fact, that they either change up my favourites or just kill them off. Now, only video games are left for me, when it comes to these companies (it's a miracle, that they don't let the game developers screw up as well)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 14, 2012, 12:03PM
To be perfectly honest, I really liked the characters as they have been lately.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Polygone on October 14, 2012, 12:51PM
I'm probally gonna get a lot of hate for saying this, but to me personally (as a 99% DC fan) all that marvel really does is copycat-ing, Arkham games? Lets make Spiderman! Darker? Lets make all our characters darker! And correct me if I'm wrong here (cause I'm not sure) but didn't DC relaunch before Marvel? Just sayin'
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: P.Frost on October 14, 2012, 01:29PM
Quote from: Polygone on October 14, 2012, 12:51PM
I'm probally gonna get a lot of hate for saying this, but to me personally (as a 99% DC fan) all that marvel really does is copycat-ing, Arkham games? Lets make Spiderman! Darker? Lets make all our characters darker! And correct me if I'm wrong here (cause I'm not sure) but didn't DC relaunch before Marvel? Just sayin'
True... check just how Spider-Woman was made... Marvel is fan fave thou and money making but DC always bested Marvel at quality and criticism

EDIT: Also forgot to add that DC is rebooted Marvel just changed but still Marvel made it to complicated and each character overpowered so they should reboot if they want to continue with good stuff
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on October 14, 2012, 02:38PM
I agree Polygone, although I am a 85% Marvel fan to possibly 90% I have favorite characters in DC which helps, but they did change first, but like P.Frost said Marvel isn't really rebooting just changing some things, I don't really think they need the Marvel NOW title, since everything is basically the same they are just relaunching titles and stuff. But I don't disagree with you, I am almost certain that DC is the reason they are doing this. New name, relaunched titles, a bit of a new start, new fans, more money, happy company.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 14, 2012, 09:41PM
They're ruining the characters I've come to know and love. It's worse than One More Day/Brand New Day for Spidey. It's like they're repeating for him what happened in Ultimate Spider-Man. And I loved it up until they killed Peter off.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 15, 2012, 04:51AM
Well, I hate to say it, but whenever I'm like "Okay, lets check what new stuff happened recently", I end up going Hulk in my room :D No, seriously, it's just not cool, that they change up/kill/ruin/replace characters we all love. And we always get something, that totally sucks (well, at least, mostly that's what we get). The list of my main favourites in Marvel: Nightcrawler (died for Hope), Juggernaut (Powers were taken and given to Colossus...why?!), Spider-Man (it seems he is being ruined...great), Deadpool (powers taken away for no real reason, cause they didn't really do anything with him since), Iron Fist (I actually have no clue about him)....so yeah, anybody can understand my point of view here :D
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Quentin Hex on October 15, 2012, 08:33AM
I'm pissed that people don't accept change. Like do you guys really expect the writers to do the same hackneyed stories and ideas over and over again? The nature of comics is that they tell an ongoing story. The nature of an ongoing story is that things change. Characters develop, status quos change, and the world goes on. And that's one of the great things about the medium of comics. None of you really have to buy or read comics if you can't handle the fact that they change XD

It also bothers me when people say Marvel is ripping off DC's New 52 with Marvel Now. The new 52 was a pansy-assed move. "Instead of fixing anything in our universe, we're just going to make a whole new one!" Yeah that went well DC...they actually lost women readers in the process. Their writer for New 52 Superman George Perez literally said (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2012/06/breaking_dcs_new_52_might_not_have_been_completely.php) "I can't wait to get off Superman. It was not the experience I wanted it to be." On the other hand, Marvel NOW is simply a natural exit from AvX. It's not rebooting the whole damn universe, it's just taking a look at things and taking the opportunity of the new status quo to explore a few new options as well as give new readers a jumping in point.

That's all just my opinion though XD We'll see if NOW works any better than New 52 in the long run.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: BLaw on October 15, 2012, 09:37AM
Tbh, marvel already went ahead with the Ultimate Universe to see how that would turn out to be, how things went to be a bit more realistic. DC followed in MARVEL'S footsteps with New 52, because they wanted things to be a tad bit more realistic. On top of that, the Toby Maguire Spider-Man movie (made before Batman Begins) already showed that Marvel took things into a more realistic way. Proof of this is Goblin's goofy suit. Dafuq is with that anyway.

After Spider-Man's success came Batman Begins.

Though, I prefer Batman over any Marvel character, so don't hate on me lol
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 15, 2012, 09:53AM
Well, here's the thing: I've been a Spider-Man fan since the first film. They did an incredible job with it, which got me into the comics. They're messing with a character who already had a certain sense of realism about him.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 15, 2012, 10:42AM
Well, Spidey was one of the most realistic characters in my eyes, because his life wasn't all happiness. He had lots of drama in his life. His whole "career" started with his uncle's death. Than his girlfriend dies. A whole newspaper wanted him to be hated by everyone. His character has shown to me, that to be a great person, you shouldn't care about yourself only, but about what's good for everyone. I hope you understand what I said, cause I'm unsure myself about what I just wrote :D

BTW, I think it's understandable, that not everyone wants things to change. Change can have very negative effects too. Ever since Marvel started changing recently, most of my favourites either died or got ruined. So, I always have my reasons to doubt change
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 15, 2012, 09:00PM
Quote from: Suigetsu on October 15, 2012, 10:42AM
Well, Spidey was one of the most realistic characters in my eyes, because his life wasn't all happiness. He had lots of drama in his life. His whole "career" started with his uncle's death. Than his girlfriend dies. A whole newspaper wanted him to be hated by everyone. His character has shown to me, that to be a great person, you shouldn't care about yourself only, but about what's good for everyone. I hope you understand what I said, cause I'm unsure myself about what I just wrote :D

BTW, I think it's understandable, that not everyone wants things to change. Change can have very negative effects too. Ever since Marvel started changing recently, most of my favourites either died or got ruined. So, I always have my reasons to doubt change

I understand what you meant. He showed me that a nerdy kid who loves what he does can go from just a guy who people distrust who doesn't have much to being a brilliant, beloved, rich genius.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: mj fan on October 21, 2012, 11:58AM
(http://media.emmafrostfiles.com/images/x-men_first_to_last_teaser02-197x300.jpg)

Keep your dirty hands off her!! Poor Jean That's exactly what i don't want to see! I always liked Jean and I don't want Emma to take her revenge. That's just not fair this Jean is young with less experience, Hope she won't act like a bragger. (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Anges_et_d%E9mons/devil9.gif)
I don't want Emma to beat Jean @Oh Yeah many things to say.. now i'm like
_Me:"Jean?
_Yes!
_NO you aren't Jean! Not the one I knew.. Get out of my way!!" (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boulet/boulet-disparait.gif) xD
(Yep I had to use this one : P)

Anyway I haven't voted in the poll yet cause i am still puzzled now..

Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: P.Frost on October 21, 2012, 02:28PM
Quote from: mj fan on October 21, 2012, 11:58AM
(http://media.emmafrostfiles.com/images/x-men_first_to_last_teaser02-197x300.jpg)

Keep your dirty hands off her!! Poor Jean That's exactly what i don't want to see! I always liked Jean and I don't want Emma to take her revenge. That's just not fair this Jean is young with less experience, Hope she won't act like a bragger. (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Anges_et_d%E9mons/devil9.gif)
I don't want Emma to beat Jean @Oh Yeah many things to say.. now i'm like
_Me:"Jean?
_Yes!
_NO you aren't Jean! Not the one I knew.. Get out of my way!!" (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boulet/boulet-disparait.gif) xD
(Yep I had to use this one : P)

Anyway I haven't voted in the poll yet cause i am still puzzled now..
Doubt that its a tease but I bet Emma will probably tutor Jean somehow if she remains in the present somehow which I think is possible cuz correct me if I am wrong but Emma helped quite a few X-MEN realizing their true potential, and using their powers to their fullest no?
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on October 21, 2012, 02:55PM
I thought that comic cover was for when the Original X-Men and the current day X-Men were fighting that new villain?

Edit: This took me forever to find because I forgot the name of the event haha. Its from X-Men First to Last.

(http://media.emmafrostfiles.com/images/x-men_first_to_last_spread_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: mj fan on October 22, 2012, 09:32AM
Yep your right He is blue and dark. I know a few people alredy saw it but anyway..
http://www.blogomatic3000.com/2011/02/23/first-look-at-x-men-first-to-last/

Quote
Doubt that its a tease but I bet Emma will probably tutor Jean somehow if she remains in the present somehow which I think is possible cuz correct me if I am wrong but Emma helped quite a few X-MEN realizing their true potential, and using their powers to their fullest no?
Yeah maybe you're right..O just try to act like "You are less experienced, i wanna kick your ass since i can't make the same with the other one because my ass would burn" : P Everyone knows Emma hates Jean so much
No really it would be better A good friendship between the two would be cool Even if i would rather the true Jean Not a look alike *sigh* And why I don't like this new Jean Grey? because it means the true will stay dead and we won't see her before a looooooonnng time. But when i see the pic' i really think they are all going to fight each other...But...wait it seems that logan is fighting against JG team; I wanted to see the older Jean make them jealous or something like that THAT would have been so fun! instead of that Wolvy is going to see her like a daughter..... *sigh* i don't want a second Hope summers for logan! I always loved the attraction Jean had with Cyclops and Logan : P
But that probably won't happen..at least for now; Anyway I guess that's the way it goes :P
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 22, 2012, 10:34AM
On the other hand, I just read, that Cain Marko has become Juggernaut again, so 1 point for Marvel NOW! from me. Although, yeah, it was done in a strange way (practically, Colossus is no longer an avatar of Cyttorak, but Cain Marko is the avatar of a Cyttorak from a different Earth), I love it. Now, I only want them to keep both Spidey and Deadpool cool as ever, and I'll be cool with Marvel again :D
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: P.Frost on October 22, 2012, 01:50PM
Quote from: mj fan on October 22, 2012, 09:32AM
Yep your right He is blue and dark. I know a few people alredy saw it but anyway..
http://www.blogomatic3000.com/2011/02/23/first-look-at-x-men-first-to-last/

Yeah maybe you're right..O just try to act like "You are less experienced, i wanna kick your ass since i can't make the same with the other one because my ass would burn" : P Everyone knows Emma hates Jean so much
No really it would be better A good friendship between the two would be cool Even if i would rather the true Jean Not a look alike *sigh* And why I don't like this new Jean Grey? because it means the true will stay dead and we won't see her before a looooooonnng time. But when i see the pic' i really think they are all going to fight each other...But...wait it seems that logan is fighting against JG team; I wanted to see the older Jean make them jealous or something like that THAT would have been so fun! instead of that Wolvy is going to see her like a daughter..... *sigh* i don't want a second Hope summers for logan! I always loved the attraction Jean had with Cyclops and Logan : P
But that probably won't happen..at least for now; Anyway I guess that's the way it goes :P
Actually to me it looks like Jean is trying while Emma is doing... something
yea but she hated the Jean thats dead and who wouldnt
U give someone ur whole life basicly make him a person and he still looks into a dead B**** who ruined and scared him for life and (this part is not for forum but those who know how Emma ended up with Cyclops and for what reasons will know) he still looks for her... come on xD Emma is a great professor and a tutor and Jean will be young so I think hate will be gone
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 22, 2012, 02:48PM
Quote from: Suigetsu on October 22, 2012, 10:34AM
On the other hand, I just read, that Cain Marko has become Juggernaut again, so 1 point for Marvel NOW! from me. Although, yeah, it was done in a strange way (practically, Colossus is no longer an avatar of Cyttorak, but Cain Marko is the avatar of a Cyttorak from a different Earth), I love it. Now, I only want them to keep both Spidey and Deadpool cool as ever, and I'll be cool with Marvel again :D

They won't leave Spidey alone.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 22, 2012, 11:24PM
But they should. I mean, why screw around with one of the biggest comic book icons? (At least, he is one of the most popular ones)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Quentin Hex on October 23, 2012, 09:30AM
They're trying something new with Spidey. Everything normalizes eventually. He'll be back sooner or later either way. But this is how the industry works: They try something new and if it doesn't work things will go back to normal. And really guys? Give it a chance to to see if its any good before you knock it. Maybe you'll actually enjoy it but if you just decide "Oh its different i dont like it" before you even read it, then your just setting yourself up to be disappointed. It could actually be good you don't know yet!
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 23, 2012, 12:43PM
Quote from: DeeDooo on October 23, 2012, 09:30AM
They're trying something new with Spidey. Everything normalizes eventually. He'll be back sooner or later either way. But this is how the industry works: They try something new and if it doesn't work things will go back to normal. And really guys? Give it a chance to to see if its any good before you knock it. Maybe you'll actually enjoy it but if you just decide "Oh its different i dont like it" before you even read it, then your just setting yourself up to be disappointed. It could actually be good you don't know yet!

It's the costume for one thing. It doesn't look like Spider-Man; it looks like Halloween.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Quentin Hex on October 23, 2012, 12:58PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on October 23, 2012, 12:43PM
It's the costume for one thing. It doesn't look like Spider-Man; it looks like Halloween.
Haha alright that's a fair complaint XD And just by the way I'm not say it necessarily won't suck, I just think you should give it the option to not suck. but yeah I actually kind of like the costume. The eyes are a bit strange but I like the darker colors and the new back logo.
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2012/10/10/supsm2013001_dc11-3_4_r560.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 23, 2012, 09:39PM
This costume reminds me of the Ultimate Peter Parker Spidey costume
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 23, 2012, 09:52PM
Quote from: DeeDooo on October 23, 2012, 12:58PM
Haha alright that's a fair complaint XD And just by the way I'm not say it necessarily won't suck, I just think you should give it the option to not suck. but yeah I actually kind of like the costume. The eyes are a bit strange but I like the darker colors and the new back logo.
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2012/10/10/supsm2013001_dc11-3_4_r560.jpg)

At the very least they should have kept the blue and not made it black...
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Quentin Hex on October 23, 2012, 10:09PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on October 23, 2012, 09:52PM
At the very least they should have kept the blue and not made it black...
Well I guess we can agree to disagree on that point (Well I guess technically can add this to the list of things we agree to disagree on...like fingerless gloves XD) cause I think primary colored costumes are a bit outdated. And black just looks good on everyone always IMHO. I still respect your opinion though :] Hope I haven't come across as too argumentative in these threads...I kind of have a tendency to do that XD
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 23, 2012, 11:23PM
Quote from: DeeDooo on October 23, 2012, 10:09PM
Well I guess we can agree to disagree on that point (Well I guess technically can add this to the list of things we agree to disagree on...like fingerless gloves XD) cause I think primary colored costumes are a bit outdated. And black just looks good on everyone always IMHO. I still respect your opinion though :] Hope I haven't come across as too argumentative in these threads...I kind of have a tendency to do that XD

Not at all, my friend. I honestly think it's me sometimes. (In the words of Tony Stark, my idol and the man whose beard I currently have, "I don't play well with others.")

For me, it's just that it doesn't look right to me without the classic blue and red. It'd be like taking Batman and turning the gray into green. To me, it's just strange and off-putting. As for black looking good, I do agree it often looks best; I prefer wearing black suits. I think it looks best on a costume though if you make the costume black, gray, and/or white with the other colors being minor, like a trim. Take the classic black suit or the Big Time stealth/sound protection suit for example; they look great. This is why I think it looks wrong on Spider-Man here, and Iron Man, for that matter.

As for the fingerless gloves, I was only saying it was an impractical idea for that specific instance (Robin, because he can't be leaving his fingerprints everywhere). I don't disagree that they can look good and still be fairly practical (Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad in Assassin's Creed I).
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Quentin Hex on October 24, 2012, 12:03AM
Haha we're all good then cause we can apparently not play well with others well together(??? It's too late here to know if that made any sense or not)

QuoteIt'd be like taking Batman and turning the gray into green.
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/300/6/a/green_lantern_batman_by_xxdan_the_manxx-d4e3b22.png)
Ooops...
...I'm...I'm...I'm sorry...I'm so sorry...
Anyways yeah I do get what your saying about changing iconic costumes drastically (like the green Batman example,) but I don't see the blue to black as that big of a change. I mean if you look at a lot of comics over the years, a lot of artists make the blue so dark it's almost (or actually is) black in some cases. I personally think red's the more iconic color to look out for. It's what pops in his costume to begin with and it's what's on his head when artists or promoters use only headshots to show the character. And the majority of spiderman redesigns (including fan ones), even if they play with the blue theme, keep the red. Not saying all the redesigns or new costumes have to or do include red (or that any "good" redesign/new costume has to include red), just saying it's more "iconic" to his character than the blue. Again all of this is my humble opinion XD
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Me on October 24, 2012, 10:35AM
@DeeDooo

Kind of like what batwoman wears ? The reeeeed

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/66037/1657925-batwoman_large.jpeg)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 24, 2012, 10:54AM
I find red and black overused a bit :D Nightwing and Batwoman already has it, let good ol' Bats stay with grey and black (Maybe a bit blue) :D BTW, Just to to stay with the topic, I start to believe in this whole Marvel NOW! thing, even though I have a feeling, that it's only purpose is to make everything more like the movies (Like "Nick Fury Jr." who looks just like the Ultimate/Movie version. I'm still more of a fan of the veteran white guy)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on October 24, 2012, 11:38AM
TWO Nick Furys, now that would be cool. It'd be like Fury Jr. trying to meet his dad's expectations or something. Whatever happens to Fury Sr. now though?
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 24, 2012, 01:09PM
Well, seeing how popular are the movies, they will either "retire" him from the comics for a while or just kill him off. Anything, just so the people, who only Nick Jr., can be happy.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on October 24, 2012, 04:30PM
I thought these were cool drawings.

(http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1351101589.jpg)

(http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1351101627.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on October 24, 2012, 11:51PM
They look awesome actually
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on October 25, 2012, 06:16PM
Can't wait to see Jean in action. Her telepathy will activate early on in the series (I believe in a battle against Magneto and Cyclops). Also she'll have some more interaction with some of the younger students including Hope.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on October 25, 2012, 06:17PM
I heard she also becomes a bit close to Kitty, which makes me happy because Kitty and Jean are my favorite characters!
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on October 25, 2012, 06:19PM
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on October 25, 2012, 06:17PM
I heard she also becomes a bit close to Kitty, which makes me happy because Kitty and Jean are my favorite characters!
It's funny because Kitty and Jean have had some tense moments in the past ;)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on October 25, 2012, 06:24PM
Although it didn't happen, in What if, she technically killed Kitty.

(http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/fnf/whatif27b.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on October 25, 2012, 06:31PM
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on October 25, 2012, 06:24PM
Although it didn't happen, in What if, she technically killed Kitty.

(http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/fnf/whatif27b.jpg)
Haha that too. But in X-Treme X-Men 19 they don't exactly get along. You should check it out lol.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on November 01, 2012, 10:43PM
Too bad it's probably not true, but has anyone heard the rumor of who the new Spider-Man may be? None other than Miguel O'Hara aka "Spider-Man 2099"
I mean it kind of makes sense if you think about it; the talons on the fingers and feet that allow him to wall crawl (2099 had those very same talons), the less "friendly" and chatty attitude (another S-Man trait), etc.
Now this I would have no problem with, Miguel taking over the Spider-Man mantle....again. I loved him the the Beenox games. So I'm crossing my fingers it's true.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on November 02, 2012, 12:09PM
Maybe, but I still prefer it to be Peter. Not that I don't like Miguel.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on November 02, 2012, 03:22PM
Quote from: mj fan on October 21, 2012, 11:58AM
(http://media.emmafrostfiles.com/images/x-men_first_to_last_teaser02-197x300.jpg)

Keep your dirty hands off her!! Poor Jean That's exactly what i don't want to see! I always liked Jean and I don't want Emma to take her revenge. That's just not fair this Jean is young with less experience, Hope she won't act like a bragger. (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Anges_et_d%E9mons/devil9.gif)
I don't want Emma to beat Jean @Oh Yeah many things to say.. now i'm like
_Me:"Jean?
_Yes!
_NO you aren't Jean! Not the one I knew.. Get out of my way!!" (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Boulet/boulet-disparait.gif) xD
(Yep I had to use this one : P)

Anyway I haven't voted in the poll yet cause i am still puzzled now..



That's a teaser for First to Last, an event that occurred a year or two back. Nothing to do with Marvel NOW!. And why would Emma want revenge? She has absolutely nothing to blame Jean for (unless you count Scott ;) ) Seriously, Emma owes Jean (and Sebastian Shaw) practically everything her current life has to offer. If anyone has to inflict "revenge," I think Jean would be the rightful one. Luckily Jean will be getting her telepathy back and Bendis said she won't be a weakling but one of the more powerful members. The interesting thing will be to see her develop her powers.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on November 03, 2012, 12:50PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on November 02, 2012, 12:09PM
Maybe, but I still prefer it to be Peter. Not that I don't like Miguel.
True, I think we'd all prefer it to be Peter. But I look at like this, better Miguel than Alpha or Doc Ock in a younger body (another rumor.)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: BLaw on November 11, 2012, 02:46AM
I do think it's Miguel. Reason why: possible hints on twitter, the X-Men are getting the first 5 from a different time-line/universe because they were popular. Would make sense if Spidey is being replaced from someone from a different time-line/universe and who was popular.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on November 12, 2012, 11:40AM
I'm a little confused here about the "Superior Spider-Man". Is he or is he not Miguel O'Hara, the Spider-Man of the year 2099? I mean look at this
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121017214030/marveldatabase/images/3/3c/Superior_Spider-Man_Vol_1_1_Camuncoli_Variant_Textless.jpg
I can see some features from Miguel like the claws.
Another confusion is what exactly is "Superior Spider-Man"? Are they rebooting the character or is Peter Parker retiring from his Super Hero Duty and he's passing the mantel to someone else?
IF it is Miguel then how come he's here? I mean sure if you're to think about it the year 2099 isn't that far from us nowadays and it doesn't look like we'll get as futuristic as them anytime soon but... How? Time traveling? And if so what of the year 2099 and all of Miguel's allies from there?
This "Superior Spider-Man" really got me intrigued and I honestly consider it interesting.
Personally I wouldn't mind if it really is Miguel. I don't care how they'll pull him out in the past but still. I'm a big fan of Spider-Man 2099 and I absolutely love the character and I love to play as him in Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time.
I hope that when more details are revealed about this "Superior Spider-Man", someone will post them here I'm really interested to see where they will go with this idea :)  :spidergirl:
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on November 12, 2012, 11:49AM
This Spidey looks a bit too violent to become the main Spider-Man, don't you think? I mean, it's okay to have one like this, but we totally need a more Friendly Neighborhood version alongside it. At least, this is what came to my mind, looking at that picture.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on November 12, 2012, 08:02PM
Suigetsu just posted my thoughts very concisely.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on November 27, 2012, 08:33PM
So I've read a few of the new books (All New X-Men, Captain America, Iron Man, Deadpool) and personally, I like it.
Just wanted to put my two cents out there. :)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 22, 2012, 02:25AM
Amazing Spider-Man #700 is out... Sigh... Just for the record, anybody here remember the good old days when Spider-Man was Peter Parker? Y'know the days before the whole Civil War and Brand New Day and all that stuff? Good ol' Peter Parker, Photographer for the Daily Bugle, having a lil' money trouble, married to Mary Jane Watson and dealing with daily Super Hero problems? Anyone? Thought so...
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on December 22, 2012, 06:32AM
Quote from: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 22, 2012, 02:25AM
Amazing Spider-Man #700 is out... Sigh... Just for the record, anybody here remember the good old days when Spider-Man was Peter Parker? Y'know the days before the whole Civil War and Brand New Day and all that stuff? Good ol' Peter Parker, Photographer for the Daily Bugle, having a lil' money trouble, married to Mary Jane Watson and dealing with daily Super Hero problems? Anyone? Thought so...
Yeah I remember. 700 is very disappointing, not only because of the events that transpired, but because the characterization of the two main characters of the story are wrong.
Avenging is much better, even with who I'm now calling "Spock", because Chris Yost is a better writer and the characterization is spot-on for the main character (Spock is an arrogant bastard, as he should be.)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on December 22, 2012, 07:53AM
Please no spoilers; I don't even have 699 yet. And as for the good old days, one only has to visit the very first panel in the favorite comic panels thread.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on December 22, 2012, 12:43PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on December 22, 2012, 07:53AM
Please no spoilers; I don't even have 699 yet. And as for the good old days, one only has to visit the very first panel in the favorite comic panels thread.
Whoops, sorry Hyper :(
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 22, 2012, 09:26PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on December 22, 2012, 07:53AM
Please no spoilers; I don't even have 699 yet.

My apologies Hyper. If you'd like there is a group on YouTube called ComicBookCast2 and they show all the Marvel/DC comics and explain them while showing the pages with zooming so you can read :) In my country they don't sell comic books :( So those guys are the only way I can keep up with Marvel and DC comic books.

Quote from: anonymouspunk89 on December 22, 2012, 06:32AM
Yeah I remember. 700 is very disappointing, not only because of the events that transpired, but because the characterization of the two main characters of the story are wrong.
Avenging is much better, even with who I'm now calling "Spock", because Chris Yost is a better writer and the characterization is spot-on for the main character (Spock is an arrogant bastard, as he should be.)

One question anonymous. The events from Avenging Spider-Man happen also in 616 right? So then does that mean that from now on Avenging will also have the "Superior" Spidey or will they keep the original?

I don't know guys it's just... This is my opinion but I don't like how they keep replacing Peter. I've been a Spidey fan since I was 4. Every time I read a comic book or watch a movie with him is like I'm checking out what an old friend has been up to. And here comes Marvel replacing him... I didn't have that much of a problem when they did it in the Ultimate Universe but MAIN Universe too?! Really? I'm a bit dissapointed and this has affected me very much. It's hard for me now to keep looking up to Spider-Man in the future comics and I'm having a hard time looking at the original too because this story is so messed up I don't even know who is the original anymore. It's gonna take a while for me to recover after this but in the end I think I'll come to like the new Spidey.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on December 23, 2012, 02:59AM
Quote from: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 22, 2012, 09:26PM
My apologies Hyper. If you'd like there is a group on YouTube called ComicBookCast2 and they show all the Marvel/DC comics and explain them while showing the pages with zooming so you can read :) In my country they don't sell comic books :( So those guys are the only way I can keep up with Marvel and DC comic books.

One question anonymous. The events from Avenging Spider-Man happen also in 616 right? So then does that mean that from now on Avenging will also have the "Superior" Spidey or will they keep the original?

I don't know guys it's just... This is my opinion but I don't like how they keep replacing Peter. I've been a Spidey fan since I was 4. Every time I read a comic book or watch a movie with him is like I'm checking out what an old friend has been up to. And here comes Marvel replacing him... I didn't have that much of a problem when they did it in the Ultimate Universe but MAIN Universe too?! Really? I'm a bit dissapointed and this has affected me very much. It's hard for me now to keep looking up to Spider-Man in the future comics and I'm having a hard time looking at the original too because this story is so messed up I don't even know who is the original anymore. It's gonna take a while for me to recover after this but in the end I think I'll come to like the new Spidey.
Yes, the events in Avenging are in the 616 universe so Spock is going to be the web-head in this series. Which honestly is a double edged sword, on one hand Avenging is being written by Chris Yost (who also wrote the new Scarlet Spider, which was fantastic) which in and of itself is the best thing ever. On the other hand, it stars the "new" Spider-Man....yippee. lol
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 23, 2012, 06:52AM
Quote from: anonymouspunk89 on December 23, 2012, 02:59AM
Yes, the events in Avenging are in the 616 universe so Spock is going to be the web-head in this series. Which honestly is a double edged sword, on one hand Avenging is being written by Chris Yost (who also wrote the new Scarlet Spider, which was fantastic) which in and of itself is the best thing ever. On the other hand, it stars the "new" Spider-Man....yippee. lol

... I want Peter back ;~;
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on December 23, 2012, 07:41AM
Quote from: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 23, 2012, 06:52AM
... I want Peter back ;~;
As do I, I'd also like a competent writer for the main series.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on December 23, 2012, 08:46AM
I do wish that they wouldn't get rid of Peter and the classic red-and-blue suit.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on December 23, 2012, 01:24PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on December 23, 2012, 08:46AM
I do wish that they wouldn't get rid of Peter and the classic red-and-blue suit.
I dunno, I'm diggin the new threads (I mean every hero in Marvel and DC got a redesign for their suits, but Spidey still had the old threads. I dunno I just like to see different looks I guess) but I'm with you on the whole "I wish they didn't get rid of Peter" thing, it's ridiculous. The only places we can find Peter is on Ultimate Spider-Man (the tv series, and there's no way I'm going near that train wreck) and the movies (ASM ftw!)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 23, 2012, 08:13PM
I dunno it's just... I am very affected by this event. I've been a Spider-Man fan since I was 3 years. I grew up with him, I looked up to him, I'd talk about him every day I was probably the Nr. 1 Spidey fan in my whole country. Even now I have a poster of him on my wall ( The Amazing Spider-Man Movie Poster ) and I still read his comics and watch his shows and everything! And here comes Marvel switching him with one of his deadliest foes who turns out just wanted to be Spider-Man all along and now he becomes a good guy... Why? What's wrong with Peter Parker being Spider-Man!? Why do they have to constantly replace him?! I honestly hope they won't hold this up for long and eventually bring Peter back somehow or atleast make another universe like I dunno an "Earth-Two" mabye or something like that where Peter gets his body back and continues being Spider-Man.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on December 23, 2012, 09:49PM
If Star-Lord & Thanos is still alive, then where's Nova Richard Rider went to after escaping Cancerverse?
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on December 24, 2012, 02:35AM
Quote from: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 23, 2012, 08:13PM
I dunno it's just... I am very affected by this event. I've been a Spider-Man fan since I was 3 years. I grew up with him, I looked up to him, I'd talk about him every day I was probably the Nr. 1 Spidey fan in my whole country. Even now I have a poster of him on my wall ( The Amazing Spider-Man Movie Poster ) and I still read his comics and watch his shows and everything! And here comes Marvel switching him with one of his deadliest foes who turns out just wanted to be Spider-Man all along and now he becomes a good guy... Why? What's wrong with Peter Parker being Spider-Man!? Why do they have to constantly replace him?! I honestly hope they won't hold this up for long and eventually bring Peter back somehow or atleast make another universe like I dunno an "Earth-Two" mabye or something like that where Peter gets his body back and continues being Spider-Man.
I know that feeling, I too looked up to Spider-Man. He taught me a great many things growing up (Great power comes great responsibility, to fight for what's right, and to never give up no matter the odds.) It hurts, honestly it does. Some might say we don't have a life because we look up to these characters and feel like this, but these characters have been a part of our whole lives.
It's not the best solution, but go to Spider-Man Crawlspace.com and go the to forums and visit the subforum labeled "Crawl Space comic" (or something like that) and you'll find a fan "comic" (it's really only scripts that they wrote because if they had pages it'd be copyright infringement) That "undoes" the damage caused by OMD and BND and has spun off into some good stories (I won't spoil them, they really are good.) And they're working on a new issue as we speak (after a lengthy hiatus.)
It isn't much, but hopefully like me, it'll help ease the pain.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Quentin Hex on December 24, 2012, 04:44AM
All I can say is thank god they're finally doing something interesting with Spider-Man. I love Parker as much as the next guy (I really do) but they've kind of entirely ruined the character. It doesn't help that whenever anyone tries to do something new and exciting with him, the fans who are far too stuck in the past create this massive backlash. "How dare you try and ever have any creative license with the character! Don't you know we're the fans? OUR WORD IS LAW!!11!!!!11" They won't kill Parker forever. I mean really, look at this logically: he's profitable and interesting and pretty much everyone's favorite but he got too big (mister member of every team ever) and too complicated. If you kill him for a bit and then bring him back he can start over again and be truly interesting and a good character again. This is what's best for Parker. Keep your minds open :)

Edit: This article kinda says what I said but it also has some other interesting points if you're interested: http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/12/the-amazing-spider-man-is-dead-long.html

Edit 2: I admit it is entirely possible I'm wrong and they don't know what they're doing. I'll gladly eat my proverbial hat if that's the case. But just give them a chance to prove it first before you go all apesh*t rabid fans on them, please?
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on December 24, 2012, 05:27AM
Quote from: DeeDooo on December 24, 2012, 04:44AM
All I can say is thank god they're finally doing something interesting with Spider-Man. I love Parker as much as the next guy (I really do) but they've kind of entirely ruined the character. It doesn't help that whenever anyone tries to do something new and exciting with him, the fans who are far too stuck in the past create this massive backlash. "How dare you try and ever have any creative license with the character! Don't you know we're the fans? OUR WORD IS LAW!!11!!!!11" They won't kill Parker forever. I mean really, look at this logically: he's profitable and interesting and pretty much everyone's favorite but he got too big (mister member of every team ever) and too complicated. If you kill him for a bit and then bring him back he can start over again and be truly interesting and a good character again. This is what's best for Parker. Keep your minds open :)

Edit: This article kinda says what I said but it also has some other interesting points if you're interested: http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2012/12/the-amazing-spider-man-is-dead-long.html

Edit 2: I admit it is entirely possible I'm wrong and they don't know what they're doing. I'll gladly eat my proverbial hat if that's the case. But just give them a chance to prove it first before you go all apesh*t rabid fans on them, please?
Don't worry, we aren't THAT crazy (note to self: cancel sniper team outside of Dan Slott's house, lol)
At least for me, I don't mind if they try something interesting with Spidey (honest to goodness) but there are honestly a few things in the way of me actually enjoying this "new" direction; the main one is that I don't care what went down (because like you, I doubt it's gonna last..... at least I hope so) but how it went down. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but in 700 the last few pages/panels felt like a knife in the heart mostly because of the characterization (the two main characters didn't act like themselves. That's why Chris Yost's Avenging series is going to do great, because the main character acts like you'd expect them to.) That's what I think a lot of fans are upset about, Slott took one of the defining traits that the Spider-Man had and shoved it down the toilet because it fit his story and is ridiculing everyone who calls him out on it (the sane fans at least, we all laugh at the ones who are giving him death threats).
I mean, almost the same thing happened to UCSM, when Bendis killed Peter off and introduced Miles (Not on the same scale though. btw, anyone notice how that got national news coverage, while this one isn't?) Some fans didn't want a new guy in the Spider-Man suit.
But it was different, because of how it played out. Peter didn't go out with a whimper, he went out swinging, defeating the Green Goblin and saving his family (I cried when he passed, true story. Many manly tears were shed that afternoon.)
Forgive the rambling, and frankly long post (I'm in a talkative mood right now). In my honest to User opinion, it's not what happened in the story, it's how it was told and how the writer is acting about it (belittling the fans who are actually giving just criticisms and not showering him with praise.)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on December 24, 2012, 08:12AM
A certain Randy Kemp commented this on the link DeeDooo wrote here, and I think it's just the best thing I read about this thing, so without wasting more time, I shall copy it here :D (BEWARE OF POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

"If you Google the World Wide Web, you'll find out what happens online in issue 700. Someone leaked the ending.

Suppose they are correct. Doctor Octopus has been inhabiting Peter Parker's body – at least it has Doc's brain waves. We find Peter's brain waves trapped in a dying Doc Ock body. What does Peter do? He gets some old villains to break him out. Then he tried to reverse things – within 700 minutes (about 11.67 hours). But Doc has traps, measures and counter measures in place. Here's my objections:

What does psychology and psychiatry say about different personalities inhabiting a body? Isn't the personality of Otto Gunther Octavius radically different from that of Peter Parker? Just look at any book on personality disorders (i.e. The Three Faces of Eve).

Even if someone can superimpose their essence into another body, they won't be able to control their daily routine like the original person. A case in point is any version of the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Even though the alien spore took over the body, those close to them complained they were somehow different.

This inhabited Spiderman body is subject to others sensing something is wrong. Any of the science types might start a scientific investigation – Reed Richards, Max and his brainy crew, his former detective girlfriend, etc. How would this invader shield himself from any of the Marvel universe telepathic mutants or mystic types (i.e. Doctor Strange)? And wouldn't Daredevil sense lies via the heartbeat?

Would a leopard suddenly change it's spots? Why should Doc Ock become "good" just because he can be Spiderman? Otto was doing bad things all though issue 700 and prior issues

How would Otto as Peter Parker shield himself from scientific, telepathic and mystic/magical probes?

What would I do if I were Peter? I know that Doc Ock has many contingency plans. Remember the old saying – the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Why didn't Peter just contact his enemy the Jackal? Then he could just transfer his brain waves into a clone? Then he could work with the Jackal to defect Doctor Octopus. After all, the Jackal is also brilliant. I'm sure the Jackal would help – for a price. This would also allow Peter time to defeat both enemies. Why didn't Peter think of that?

Frankenstein is now a hero in the DC Comics world (DC gives the creation the same name as the creator). Suppose Bruce Wayne decided to retire as Batman. He wants to focus on business and humanitarian endeavors. He asks Frankenstein to take over the Batman mantel, while he finances everything.

Would the old Batman audience be happy? Can the old Spiderman audience be happy with rumors of leaked endings – if true? One could argue that the composite knowledge and intellect of Otto and Peter is one smart dude."

Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 25, 2012, 03:38AM
What I'm asking is what would stop Ock from forgetting his so called "promise" to Peter and become a villan again in Spider-Man's body? The scans of Superior Spider-Man clearly show him fed up of fighting crime and leaving the gang do as they please...
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on December 25, 2012, 04:34AM
Quote from: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 25, 2012, 03:38AM
What I'm asking is what would stop Ock from forgetting his so called "promise" to Peter and become a villan again in Spider-Man's body? The scans of Superior Spider-Man clearly show him fed up of fighting crime and leaving the gang do as they please...

Pete should've called his Avengers teammates in a 1st place. Especially Steve Rogers, Logan, Cage, Danny (feel sorry Tony since he's on a way business with Guardians, i hope they met Rich Rider, not sure he's retire or having vacation on the other universe or planet). Be strong Peter Parker
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on December 25, 2012, 05:40AM
Quote from: LarsAlexandersson on December 25, 2012, 04:34AM
Pete should've called his Avengers teammates in a 1st place. Especially Steve Rogers, Logan, Cage, Danny (feel sorry Tony since he's on a way business with Guardians, i hope they met Rich Rider, not sure he's retire or having vacation on the other universe or planet). Be strong Peter Parker

I think that he should have called Logan. Lizard was able to sniff out the "Peter Parker" inside Octavius' body and Logan can "smell a lie" if he atleast let Logan know he would have had a chance.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on December 31, 2012, 09:04AM
I finally got to read ASM 700. I almost cried at the end. What really bugs me here is they took Peter out. Octavius may be a good guy now but he's not trying to be Parker. He's a very different person, and doesn't really feel like Spider-Man. Peter was a joker, a guy who tried to take things lightly. Octavius looks like he's going to be more of a serious and creepy Spider-Man.

They could easily fix this. All that's needed is to say something like Peter's underlying body chemistry didn't like Ock's brain, so it fixed his brain and brought back the dormant part of Peter Parker's mind. It might be more interesting to see Peter fighting Ock inside the brain for control of the body. (Peter should win, of course, eventually.)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: mj fan on December 31, 2012, 09:24AM
Agreed But honestly i'll wait and try if the story is going to be better cause right now i am so angry
They just killed one of the best characters For what? In many scenarios across the comic book genre, superheroes or villains have been killed plenty of time off only to come back to life a few issues later or like jean grey to make us wait and act like "i want her back!" and make us sad but the result is that i honestly don't buy their comics anymore Looks like garbage to me. They die and then, return thanks to some amazing miracle or twist in the storyline..that's soo boring

http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/12/27/mary-jane-doctor-octopus-kiss/#more-103484  :mad: I am mad, sooooooo mad right now..Hate otto He acts like a pervert
C'm on! With Mj?!?
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on December 31, 2012, 10:21AM
SPOILER

I don't know who heard this, but I think in January, Daken also dies.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on December 31, 2012, 10:26PM
I think it'll be better if Peter & Ock should stick together, like Ling Yao & Greed in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on January 01, 2013, 12:03AM
That would actually be an interesting concept. As in the two personalities changing up once in a while
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Polygone on January 01, 2013, 02:10AM
Quote from: mj fan on December 31, 2012, 09:24AM
Agreed But honestly i'll wait and try if the story is going to be better cause right now i am so angry
They just killed one of the best characters For what? In many scenarios across the comic book genre, superheroes or villains have been killed plenty of time off only to come back to life a few issues later or like jean grey to make us wait and act like "i want her back!" and make us sad but the result is that i honestly don't buy their comics anymore Looks like garbage to me. They die and then, return thanks to some amazing miracle or twist in the storyline..that's soo boring

http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/12/27/mary-jane-doctor-octopus-kiss/#more-103484  :mad: I am mad, sooooooo mad right now..Hate otto He acts like a pervert
C'm on! With Mj?!?

Seems like Otto isn't wasting time... xD
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: mj fan on January 01, 2013, 02:35AM
xD xD xD I thought i was going to vomit lol He's in the peter's body but.. : P Poor Mj if only she knew.. xD

I just can't believe some people buy such stories That sounds terrible. Well ok they want to know.. (maybe they are right because it (can) be good).. .But the truth is that it encourages writers to create such horrible stories I hope they won't make like the ultimate spider man series..
.. I'll wait and see what's going on Or do like i always do: read the book at the bookseller and then leave without paying xD
But really I don't really find this switch up to be that interesting.
I don't see Superior Spider-Man being that much different, except a boring spider man, having looser morals(which we already have Kaine for).

I used to buy ALL the series I mean it, every episode (xmen, spidey, avengers..) and all And that was really expensive as you may know..)..but now i think writers are a little..joking

Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on January 01, 2013, 06:24AM
Quote from: mj fan on January 01, 2013, 02:35AM
xD xD xD I thought i was going to vomit lol He's in the peter's body but.. : P Poor Mj if only she knew.. xD

I just can't believe some people buy such stories That sounds terrible. Well ok they want to know.. (maybe they are right because it (can) be good).. .But the truth is that it encourages writers to create such horrible stories I hope they won't make like the ultimate spider man series..
.. I'll wait and see what's going on Or do like i always do: read the book at the bookseller and then leave without paying xD
But really I don't really find this switch up to be that interesting.
I don't see Superior Spider-Man being that much different, except a boring spider man, having looser morals(which we already have Kaine for).

I used to buy ALL the series I mean it, every episode (xmen, spidey, avengers..) and all And that was really expensive as you may know..)..but now i think writers are a little..joking
Exactly!
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on January 02, 2013, 11:58AM
So Spider-Man's ruined... and now they're just straight-up trolling us with the new cover:

(http://i.imgur.com/Yu0op.jpg)

But here's something cool:

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398725_10151319309712290_1334884758_n.jpg)

Iron Man's getting a more traditional armor again (though the helmet makes me think of a mystical skateboarder).
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: BLaw on January 02, 2013, 02:27PM
More like Captain Ironic-Man. Though I DO like the suit, even the helmet.

As for Spider-Man, glad I'm not reading comics now lol.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on January 02, 2013, 04:53PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on January 02, 2013, 11:58AM

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398725_10151319309712290_1334884758_n.jpg)

Iron Man's getting a more traditional armor again (though the helmet makes me think of a mystical skateboarder).
I like the new armor, though the helmet looks a little like the Flash to me, but it's really cool.
As for Spider-Man, I'll continue to check out Avenging, but I'm mainly sticking with USM and Scarlet Spider.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on January 03, 2013, 05:25AM
Crapcom Rage quit moments, Spidey fans:

">:O: Dingleberging Crapcom!"
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on January 03, 2013, 10:33PM
Quote from: LarsAlexandersson on January 03, 2013, 05:25AM
Crapcom Rage quit moments, Spidey fans:

">:O: Dingleberging Crapcom!"
I don't think that's an entirely accurate assessment. It just seems the current staff of Spider-Man (With the exception of Chris Yost who is currently writing Avenging and SS, and Bendis who is writing USM) has lost their damn minds.
Everything else in Marvel is fine (imho)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 03, 2013, 10:43PM
I honestly don't think anything is wrong with capcom, people just need to get over it when a character they like doesn't appear in a few games.

I have to say I like and dont like marvel NOW. I obviously love that Jean is back and that she really wants to stick around in the future and set things right because of how screwed up everything is. I know that she will probably not be staying forever but its nice to have her back somewhat. The Spiderman thing I didn't really know about since I don't keep up with him very much but I don't really understand why they made Peter and Dr Ock change bodies and then keep it that way, seems a bit silly, and the whole thing with MJ is pushing it a little bit, but what can you do. And like most everyone else I like the new Iron Man costume, except for the helmet its not very fitting for Tony I don't think. It reminds me of Ultron and Vision some what.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on January 03, 2013, 10:57PM

Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on January 03, 2013, 10:43PM
I honestly don't think anything is wrong with capcom, people just need to get over it when a character they like doesn't appear in a few games.

I have to say I like and dont like marvel NOW. I obviously love that Jean is back and that she really wants to stick around in the future and set things right because of how screwed up everything is. I know that she will probably not be staying forever but its nice to have her back somewhat. The Spiderman thing I didn't really know about since I don't keep up with him very much but I don't really understand why they made Peter and Dr Ock change bodies and then keep it that way, seems a bit silly, and the whole thing with MJ is pushing it a little bit, but what can you do. And like most everyone else I like the new Iron Man costume, except for the helmet its not very fitting for Tony I don't think. It reminds me of Ultron and Vision some what.
I agree, I personally am a big fan of Capcom (some of my favorite series come from Capcom; Devil May Cry, Street Fighter, Mega Man, Resident Evil, etc) I never got the hate that they get from people, it's weird.
I like that the original X-men are in the present (sounds hokey on paper, but Bendis is pulling off very well) it's really cool. So far I'm enjoying all of the Marvel NOW stories, except Spidey (I'm going to give Avenging a chance, 15.1 was very good despite the fact Ock is Spider-Man) So to fill the web-head hole in my heart, I'm gonna stick with Scarlet Spider and USM (Kaine and Miles are my current favorite Spider-people.)
And the new Venom storyline for USM is gonna rock hard!
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 04, 2013, 08:37AM
Agreed Capcom is a great company, and I am a huge fan of all their games, but I don't really understand the hate either. They get it a-lot and I just don't get why.

I had forgot about the new Avengers title with the mixture of X-Men and Avengers, I am excited to see how that plays out too, and I agree They really are pulling All New X-Men off very well. To me it seemed like a pretty tough story line to bring in, but I feel like it needed to be done, and they are executing it very nicely.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: RoMunroe on January 04, 2013, 01:27PM
To me it seems All new Xmen is sort of a what if.

"What if we could actually see what's become of our cause at the very beginning when we aren't even sure the dimensions it will take, and if it's something we ought to dedicate our lives to in the long run."

I think it was a fresh idea for them to do this, and I have to say of all the books I am enjoying this one the most...well until i see Psylocke's X-Force. I am really anxious to let my eyes read that book! If just to superficially silently yell " Mohawk 'Ro! You're back!! Oh how I've missed you!"

If AvX was a gimmick, it worked for me. I am starting to get into Avengers again, although i wasn't ever really into them ( the last time i read it on a monthly basis for about 4 months, the west coast avengers were...well...on the west coast, and Sersi and Hercules were in Avengers Prime,  Xavier had just been rescued from the clutches of the shi'ar skrulls, and Storm was wearing a short 'do that I liked very much and wearing a costume that was black...not white or silver -.-

I'm not sure what to think about the death of Peter Parker, since he probably will be back in about a year if not sooner ( you all know nothing stays dead in those books lol).

And correct me if I am wrong...did the red skull actually lift Xaviers brain from his corpse? Let's hope Lilandra has another clone body lying around somewhere.....
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on January 06, 2013, 09:18AM
Quote from: RoMunroe on January 04, 2013, 01:27PM
To me it seems All new Xmen is sort of a what if.

"What if we could actually see what's become of our cause at the very beginning when we aren't even sure the dimensions it will take, and if it's something we ought to dedicate our lives to in the long run."

I think it was a fresh idea for them to do this, and I have to say of all the books I am enjoying this one the most...well until i see Psylocke's X-Force. I am really anxious to let my eyes read that book! If just to superficially silently yell " Mohawk 'Ro! You're back!! Oh how I've missed you!"

If AvX was a gimmick, it worked for me. I am starting to get into Avengers again, although i wasn't ever really into them ( the last time i read it on a monthly basis for about 4 months, the west coast avengers were...well...on the west coast, and Sersi and Hercules were in Avengers Prime,  Xavier had just been rescued from the clutches of the shi'ar skrulls, and Storm was wearing a short 'do that I liked very much and wearing a costume that was black...not white or silver -.-

I'm not sure what to think about the death of Peter Parker, since he probably will be back in about a year if not sooner ( you all know nothing stays dead in those books lol).

And correct me if I am wrong...did the red skull actually lift Xaviers brain from his corpse? Let's hope Lilandra has another clone body lying around somewhere.....
Yup, Red Skull did in fact take Prof. X's brain (and has somehow gained psychic powers, wtf? lol) But then again it is the Marvel universe, the very same universe where there's a talking Raccoon with big guns and a girl who can kick almost anyone's ass while dressed as a squirrel :P
I'm kind of interested in the new X-Force (The one with Storm, not so much the one with Cable) I really enjoyed the last run so I hope this one won't disappoint (I doubt it will disappoint imo)
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Tony Stark on January 06, 2013, 04:02PM
You know what change I want to see? Iron Man acting more like the Robert Downey Jr portrayal.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on January 08, 2013, 04:41PM
Quote from: Hyperman360 on January 06, 2013, 04:02PM
You know what change I want to see? Iron Man acting more like the Robert Downey Jr portrayal.
I thought he did?
btw, I know a spoiler from Superior Spider-Man #1.  All I'll say is......saw that coming.
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: xXScarletSpiderXx on January 10, 2013, 06:12AM
ATTENTION : Spoilers of Superior Spider-Man below if you haven't read it yet or do not want to know what happened do not read further. You have been warned!

http://www.mtv.com/videos/marvel-now-behind-the-reevolution-ep-4-superior-spider-man/1699865/playlist.jhtml#series=2211&seriesId=580&channelId=1
I suppose I should say this... Dan Slott... I salute you and I apologize to you...
Guys this man got us. That's it he got the punchline and got the last laugh. Peter Parker is ALIVE! Supposely his spirit shifted from Ock's body back to his body and he's watching over Otto and stopping him when he's about to kill. And also for all of us ( yes including me ) who thought Miguel will be Superior Spider-Man Dan Slott confirmed that he WILL be in the comic at some point.

Image too big to upload here : http://whatwouldspideydo.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/superiorspiderman_1_thegroup-022.jpg
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on January 10, 2013, 08:23AM
For a minute there, I thought it's Iceman :D
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 10, 2013, 03:40PM
Quote from: Suigetsu on January 10, 2013, 08:23AM
For a minute there, I thought it's Iceman :D

Hahaha so did I! Bobby what are you doing there?
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on January 11, 2013, 12:39PM
It was kind non-shocking though. I wonder when will he start talking like Venom, always saying we and stuff :D
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on January 11, 2013, 07:52PM
YES! Peter Parker is BACK!, as soul. It will be just like Ling Yao & Greed in FMAB/Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood just like i said before
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: anonymouspunk89 on January 11, 2013, 08:52PM
Anybody else notice that Peterpus's lab outfit looks like Dr Horrible?
Title: Re: Marvel NOW! Relaunch
Post by: LX - Rampage on January 11, 2013, 11:57PM
Quote from: LarsAlexandersson on January 11, 2013, 07:52PM
YES! Peter Parker is BACK!, as soul. It will be just like Ling Yao & Greed in FMAB/Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood just like i said before
I hope it will be as cool as that was in FMAB. God, I like that anime