:spiderman: It looks like Spider-man 1,2 and 3 producers are willing to continue Spidey's stories on the big screen.
:spiderman: Only, it seems that Tobey Maguire doesn't.
:spiderman: so the new saga would be something like James Bond: the actors change but the world remains the same.
Then if you have something to say about this say it. Also, if you have news....
Quote from: Magneto on October 07, 2007, 12:15PM
:spiderman: so the new saga would be something like James Bond: the actors change but the world remains the same.
although, in the James Bond flicks, the world doesnt really remain the same, there is a big lack of continuity and time lines, but i doubt this will happen with the spiderman flicks
yes thats right.
anyhow with "the world" i mean that 007's name is always james bond, he still is a british secret agent etc. but that's not important.
ah and i think that Maguire isn't the best actor to play spidey. he should say and do more stupid funny things and maguire was a bit... sad in the 3 movies
I thought Tobey Maguire was signed on until #7. Although what I would like to know is what villians will be in the fourth movie? Also I think the Spidey movies will go the way of the Batman movies of how they had different actors playing Batman, first and second Michael Keaton, third Val Kilmer and fourth George Clooney. Batman Begins does not count as they started over with those movies.
I hope they make another Spider-man movie. The first three were mad good, especially the third one. But I heard that Toby doesnt want to do another bcuz Kirsten didnt want to do another movie.
Someone also said that they were running out of enemies to use. They could just use guys like Carnage, Shocker, Scorpion, ect.
i heard in spiderman 4 the villain is the vampire that sucks the powers from animal based heros - villains i think his name is mobius ??? well he pulled out spideys eye in the comics or that another vampire lol
First off, it's Morbius. Second, the guy that took his eye out was Morlun. Finally, third, All I've heard is the actor that plays Curt Connors is interested in playing the Lizard. I think Laura Ziskin also said if Tobey/Kirsten/Sam do not want to return, they will make the movie without them.
It not my fault there two vampires with same names ... anyway ive read thing about lizard somwere on marvel forums i think
Loads of people (non-official sources) think it'll be Carnage but I doubt that since Venom wasn't explored enough and to portray him well you couldn't make it a family friendly movie.
Other people think Kraven but would that make a good movie?
I dunno about lizard but I think it should be scorpion - Spidey's really popular and JJ's been publicly humiliated by having to appologise to him so perhaps he'd fund the scorpion project.
Venom obviousy would have to come back since he wasn't used enough.
There's even talk of Bruce Campbell playing Mysterio! I think it'd be great if one of Spidey's lesser villains (Mysterio, Rhino, Shocker) had a little cameo at the start of the film just to mix it up a little...
Kraven/Lizard; Kraven's Last Hunt; Lizard takes the place of Vermin. That is one of those persistant rumors that would actually be a GOOD thing to happen :laugh: (unlike Carnage......)
Yea I would love to see a Spider-Man movie with Carnage, Lizard, Morbius, and /or Scorpion
I'd like a movie with a Villain like Rhino with little to no background. And who doesn't turn up to be Uncle Ben's real murderer.
yea that was kinda stupid, rhino would be perfect or shocker
Who do you think would make a great Rhino? I think Michael Clark Duncan would be good because he is a big guy and he could really dumb it down too. I know that the Rhino is a white guy but if they could get Duncan to play Kingpin in Daredevil than what could it hurt to get him to play Rhino. Also I heard that Bruce Campbell wanted to play Electro instead of Mysterio.
yea I heard that about Electro, I wouldn't really mind seeing either one of them. Yea Michael Duncan would be really good for Rhino, and he could dumb it down, lol. But i think they should get someone like the Undertaker, he's big, and I bet he could dumb the part down. I don't know if he could fully get into the part like Duncan could, but I wouldn't mind seeing another wrestler turn actor.
i reckon that they should do wat they did in spierman 3 but instead have like spiderman has to defeat rhino or electro and carnage and venom helps spiderman save the day ....
it sounded better in my head lol
yea i wouldnt mind seeing venom again especially as like an anti-hero, like he is in the comics, cuz they depicted him as a str8 villian in SM 3
Please no more Wrestlers as movie actors. I like The Rock and Hulk Hogan but no one else. Notice I said movie actors because I know that wrestling is all fake and that they are all "stage" or "ring" actors. :)
u could use wrestlers for all the bulky kinda dumb people for some of the viallains
Well bone saw from spiderman 1 was a wrestler...I just hope that if they do choose a 'big' villain they don't get someone like vinnie jones to play them...juggernaut was bad
that juggernaut was funny.... it seemed like every other juggernaut that was ever made was better then him
Bone Saw in Spider-Man 1 was played by Macho Man Randy Savage but he was put in there to show the part where Spidey was a wrestler before a superhero. He was not hired for his acting talents.
whats wrong wioth wrestlers turned actors, like venom said u could use them for all the bulky kinda dumb characters
BTW Venom what other Juggernauts were created before the X3 one? All I know of is the animated one from the X-Men Cartoon.
that wat i meant the cartoon ones and the ones ingame
Freeze dried movies says that the villains will be Carnage, Lizard and Black Cat:
Our regular scooper tells FreezeDriedMovies that plans are underway for Spider-Man 4, which were (obviously) set up in the third film. In the third entry, Dr. Curt Connors (played by Dylan Baker) looks at a piece of symbiote with Peter Parker. The movie then travels along it's path without another mention of that "piece" of symbiote. This is the set up for Spider-Man 4 where that small piece of alien symbiote becomes CARNAGE. Yes Cletus Kasady is coming to the big screen, one of Spider-Man most horrifying and evil villains. Not only with Parker have to deal with the red lean mean killing machine, but Connors is set to become the long awaited LIZARD! these two villains have all been CONFIRMED for Spider-Man 4. There is talk of the Black Cat making her first appearance, but that's all but official.
So there you have it. Spider-Man, The Lizard, Carnage... and hopefully NO Sam Raimi. Avi Arad, please find someone who CARES what the fans think!
The Black Cat? I wonder who they would get to play her? Angelina Jolie? ;)
Quote from: Venom on October 11, 2007, 04:53PM
i reckon that they should do wat they did in spierman 3 but instead have like spiderman has to defeat rhino or electro and carnage and venom helps spiderman save the day ....
it sounded better in my head lol
cool idea i wood like to see venie boy helping too
ps i think that venom is 12 times better then carnage
i herd carnage, venom, the lizard, and black cat will be in the new spider-man movie.
i all so herd venom is going to look like this.
it is an idea for venom to be mutated.
mabby spider-man will mutated to man-spider.
a have my own idea what the villians shood be mysterio, carnage, kingpin, and venom.
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I'd like to see more of venom and possibly Carnage. I hope they use other villians to like Rhino, Shocker, Lizard. You know that New Goblin (Harry Osborn) will probably be in it if they make a new one.
All this stuff i have to say is according to un-reliable sources (wikipedia/imdb):
# Someone from a previous spider-man film (not sure if its all or just 3) who died is supposedly coming back
#Carnage and Lizard are the new villains (although I think Carnage might only be there as part of all the fan boys trying to pressure marvel into including him - like they did with venom apparently) - personally i dont think half the carnage fans have even seen much of him
#Tobey will do it if Sam Rami does it
#Sam will do it if Kirsten and Tobey do it
#Sony has the rights for another 3
#Jake Gylenhal is in the running for the next spidey (to replace tobey)
I can guarentee you that not of the information i gave then was reliable so wheter or not its true, i don't know
BUT
#A venom story may be in the pipeline
#The first 86 pages from a suggested spidey 4 script is on imdb (but i think it may be a fan boys)
I'm still waiting for the Captain Britain movie (Marvel, if you're reading, I'll do it for next to nothing :runaway:)
How in the world could a Venom/Carnage story work. It was destroyed at the end of 3.
According to the IMDB forums there's countless as to how the symbiote could survive - some are quite impressive at how they clutch at straws (Cassidy Breaking into Conners lab and wearing the sample kept there)
Some geneticist obtained a tiny fragment of the dying Venom symbiote. He managed to sequence the genome of the symbiote and reconstruct it from his gene library. Then, he injected the genome into some species of bacteria he found on a meteorite and prayed for it to incorporate Venom's genome into its own genome.
....A few months later....
....thunder and lightning, raining, etc....
The bacteria-Venom hybrid "evolved" into the Carnage symbiote and left the lab through the sewage system.... @_@
nice, that would be a sweet story line if they actually use it. Did you just come up wioth that or did you find that out on some website
i think the plot shood go like this.
peter parker and marry jane get marred, after the wedding peter go's to docter.conners lab and finds a note, the note sess.
:note:peter i em sorry im not here, derring a exsperramant to give me back the arm i lost it ternd me in to a monster:
peter then looks in to conners file's he find exsperrament to his dna then peter poots his soot on then all of asoddenly the lizard bosting and attacks peter wile in the shadow wachiss venom watting to strike peter.
wile peter and docter.conners fight bolth drip blood in the peace of the symbiote and then they bolth hit a mutashun ray that hit the symboite and bring it to life, the symboite peace exscaps to freeddom.
derring the battle peter exscaps and gose home, wile the lizard still romes new york, venom follose the symboite peace to the jail findding cletus cassady and then bondding with him.
giving birth to carnage, then venom greet the new symboite but carnage attacks venom, venom exscaps to conners lab and then hits the mutashun ray then mutat's him.
then peter meet up with his friend felicia hardy, wen felicia get home i sciencetist hoo helpet make captian-america bring felicia to nick-fury, nick tells her that her father noise the super-soilder-serum.
felicia then be come the black-cat, she meet spider-man on the rooftop of the dialy-buaggle, they fight but are interrupded by the lizard and carnage, the black-cat and spider-man team up with each other and then venom appears mutated.
then spider-man froes carnage of the dialy-buaggle, then he go's for venom, venom is beetting then retreat to safty, then docter.conners is cayord.
:the-ending:
carnage lase in a cacoon, then he spawned a new symbiote toxin.
:spider-man 5:
:villains:kingpin,carnage,venom still mutated,mysterio,vulture:
:heroes:spider-man,scarlet-spider,black-cat,silver-sable,prowler,toxin:
:sort-time-villains:prowler and toxin:
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Quote from: PackerFan8459 on October 17, 2007, 06:04PM
nice, that would be a sweet story line if they actually use it. Did you just come up wioth that or did you find that out on some website
I made it up.......................... :rofl:
wow, u just made that up iron Fist. That was pretty good. Armored Capt. America that is a sweet story line, but ito sounds a little cheesy tho, but its good.
i would like 100% to see new gobby to in sm4.I liked the one who played harry he was so cool
i had an idea for spider-man 5 movie.
:the-heroes:spider-man,the scarlet-spider,black-cat,
prowler,the silver-sable,and toxin:
:villians:kingpin,mysterio,venom,carnage,vulture:
:sort time villians:prowler and toxin:
i all so have some more idea's for a spider-man 5 movie.
:well for starter's there is some serprises for my spider-man 5:
:spider-man mutates to man-spider, yes man-spider:
:scarlet-spider terns to spider-carnage, yes carnage-spider the monsteriss spider-clone:
:and doc-oc at the end of this movie with mysterio so in the next movie they can form the sinister-six:
at the end of my spider-man 5 movie plot carnage and the vulture get's killed by the kingpin and mysterio find doc-oc so he can form the sinister-6 and kingpin get a 6 year sentint's to jial.
here's my spider-man 6 movie sinister-6 member's.
:sinister-6 member's:
:mysterio:
:doc-oc:
:venom:
:hobgoblin:
:scorpion:
:rhino:
:member that were considderd to be:
:kingpin:in jial for 4-year's:
:vulture:deceased:
:carnage:deceased:
:greengoblin:deceased:
:shocker:
:electro:
:hydro-man:
:heroes member to be considderd:
:prowler
:blackcat:
:silversable:
:spider-man:
:toxin:
:scarlet-spider:
:new-goblin:
:honnararry heroes:
:lizard:
:morbius:
:kraven the hunter:
:sandman:
:well i no the lizard, morbius, kraven the hunter, and sandman are bad-guy's but i considder them honnararry-hero's:
damn u thought out 5 and 6 and 4 isnt even here yet. Nice
thank packerfan8459.
:off toppic:o and aboat the spelling i em bad at spelling.
o and as i side note i em still working on 5 and 6 plot, o and 7,8,9,10,11,and 12 are still in the work's.
in 7 kingpin get out of jail.
:my spider-man 5 movie plot:
:my plot:part-1:
spider-man and blackcat on patroll in the city when they here a bank alarm go of, the vulture rob's the bank blackcat chases after the vulture.
but before spider-man can follow her nickfury calls spider-man to the hellacarrear to tell spider-man that carnage is still alive and has spawned a new symboite.
while the kingpin's watch is blackcat chase vulture, the kingpin recroot a young-ganster and make him PROWLER.
plot to be continude.
I think venom sould come back (good) but really not. Blackcat should appear, the water fool who almost married mary jane turning her to water and killing her. Peter's teacher becomes lizard. And a little appearence of mysterio&rhyno, getting defeated by spider man. I know this is aliitle off the comic but who cares.
Please let this happen:
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Spider-Man 4
It has been rumored that Shocker may be one of the villians chosen to portray the film adpation of The Sinister Six. His portrayal is unknown at the moment, names being thrown around range from The Rock to Hank Azaria.
Although the chances of wikipedia being correct are unlikely (they crushed my hopes by saying Omega Red was going to be in X3) how much would it rock with the Sinister Six (especially Shocker). Hopefully they don't use The Rock though...
Quote from: The Boy Sanga on November 10, 2007, 05:40AM
Please let this happen:
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Spider-Man 4
It has been rumored that Shocker may be one of the villians chosen to portray the film adpation of The Sinister Six. His portrayal is unknown at the moment, names being thrown around range from The Rock to Hank Azaria.
Although the chances of wikipedia being correct are unlikely (they crushed my hopes by saying Omega Red was going to be in X3) how much would it rock with the Sinister Six (especially Shocker). Hopefully they don't use The Rock though...
kid omega was in x3 and i read somewere he was wearing omega reds "omega" symbol
Having Venom really isn't all that necessary. He was just jammed into Spider-Man 3 like that last pair of jeans into a suitcase. MJ won't be marrying Peter any time soon. They introduced Gwen specifically so that they would be able to maintain an annoying romantic side-story for the foreseeable future of Spider-Man movies. I mean, Parker and Gwen hook up. Gwen isn't a stupid annoying bitch like MJ. They make plans to get married. She dies. Emotional thing with MJ again. Hook up. Get married.
We're not going to see a Spider-Man marriage for a long, long time. Perhaps never. Villain-wise...who knows? Kraven could work, something like they have Jameson pick him up for mercenary work. Carnage...not so much. Hobgoblin could be possible, with somebody breaking into the Osborn place and stealing all the Goblin gear. If they're going to get really into it, they could actually do something with the Kingpin, then go into the Back in Black stuff. Which, IMO, would be badass. Could be Scorpion! Lizard is obviously going to happen eventually. Rhino and Mysterio are just kinda lame.
Kid Omega in X3 was that asian Tusk knockoff. Had nothing to do with Omega Red, or the real Kid Omega.
oh ok i dont now much about kid omega just that there was one in x3
Jake Gylenhal, I think would make a better Spider-Man and I think he is better looking than Tobey. I hope that they get someone better looking for the MJ role for #4 because I have always thought MJ to be a beautiful woman but I dont think Dunst really is. I hope that they finally put Lizard in the next movie. They have been teasing us with seeing Curt Connors in the first three movies but no Lizard. (Was Curt Connors in number 1 or just 2 and 3? I dont remember.)
See, I never saw why everybody thinks that Kirsten Dunst has a really weird face. IMO, she's pretty hot. Granted, MJ in the movies is easily the most loathesome individual in anything, ever, and Kirsten has the mental power of a chair, but I'd still be willing to do her. Would I miss her if she left Spider-Man movies, though? Nope.
I think that it is the red hair that makes Kirsten Dunst that less attractive. Some people, red hair looks good on and others it dont IMO it does not look good on her.
Is she naturally a red head, though?
But really, red hair isn't as much an issue for most guys, I believe.
No Kirsten is a blonde or a strawberry blonde. I am not a red head but a blonde myself but talking from a female point of view that red hair does not look good on her probably because of her young face.
Still, it doesn't look bad. But she is so hateable that I wouldn't mind seeing MJ completely removed from the movies.
what why would you want MJ removed? I think she's a peretty main character. Spider-Mans enemies can use her as a weakness of spider-man
Yeah any other actress would have been better but she does have to be in the story.
Just say Mary Jane got captured by Sinister 6 in Spider-Man 4 and it's time for Black Cat!!!! ^^
It's just that MJ in the movies is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hateable. Pretty much every aspect of a bad, clingy, jealous girlfried is part of her character. She is just such an annoying skank it pisses me off just thinking about it! ::mumble::
They have done a good job of setting it up to knock MJ out of the picture,yay BlackCat..
EDIT: Well I guess I have to go watch Spider-Man3 again,I did like the Sandman and Venom though they killed Harry fairly quick faulty Goblin Glider.. :chuckle:
You know, I think Peter 'hitting' Mj in the 3rd film wasn't an accident...I bet he was sick of her and wanted to slap her about a bit (here she comes, I'll just pop her one, make it look unintentional)
Disclaimer:
The Boy Sanga Does not promote wife beating in any way shape or form
I'd slap her. Hell, he should just throw her down a flight of stairs. I'd prolly kill her if I had to deal with that bitch as long as him.
Kirsten Dunst should've played Gwen Stacy. And killed by the Green Goblin. And then they should've found the most stunning red-headed girl (or just have the Gwen Stacy from SM3 with red hair) and introduce her just like in the comics.
Plus, it would've help re-introduce Gwen Stacy to Spider-Man's mythos. Every single new rendition of Spider-Man ignores her in favor of Mary Jane. Heck, I never knew about her until I read a review about House of M, which made me look into her story more. Everytime she's introduced in a new story (animated series, Ultimate Spider-Man, movies) it feels like she's supposed to be important somehow, but not the big part of SM's history she should be.
Ok as far as I can see the next Spider-Man movie spidey should keep his mask on when in costume. I believe they show way to much spidey with his mask either off or half torn off its just wrong and goes against the comic,I still think there really good movies.
Quote from: Gevth on November 16, 2007, 05:21PM
Kirsten Dunst should've played Gwen Stacy. And killed by the Green Goblin. And then they should've found the most stunning red-headed girl (or just have the Gwen Stacy from SM3 with red hair) and introduce her just like in the comics.
Thing is, everyone already knows about MJ. Only us comic fans know about Gwen. If they had Gwen, most of the viewers would have replied with a great big "who's this bitch?" interjection.
i hope that they drop kirsten dunst for another actress. after all, also tobey maguire won't be in the movie
So many movie threads I just picked this one to rant I just got done watching rise of the Silversufer again and Norrin Radd is so wicked I just love what they can do with cg graphics now woohoo.
Knowing how they change things in the movies for the comic book characters it is possible that instead of Felicia Hardy being the Black Cat that they could make Gwen Stacy the Black Cat. I mean if they made a Catwoman movie and Selena Kyle was not Catwoman like she was in Batman Returns than it is possible that they could make Gwen Black Cat. Who knows though.
I wish they'd bring in the jackal and make it a clone saga film. That'd be awesome. Maybe not for 4 though, just kind of introduce ben in the shadows at the end of it or something. Bring back Norman too, just to illustrate how badly he f*cks up pete's life. I think the films made the original GG look too crude. He was a real sophisticated villain, they should've done alot more with him. I liked the casting of William Dafoe though, I thought that was good.
WTF not to be rude but the catwoman movie was really not based on the batman's catwoman. As in the movie it shows that there has been many catwoman among the years. What they should have done is not even show gwen stacy and the movie and should have been Felicia Hardy so by the 4th movie she would be blackcat.
Quote from: msmarvel2007 on March 05, 2008, 08:02PM
Knowing how they change things in the movies for the comic book characters it is possible that instead of Felicia Hardy being the Black Cat that they could make Gwen Stacy the Black Cat. I mean if they made a Catwoman movie and Selena Kyle was not Catwoman like she was in Batman Returns than it is possible that they could make Gwen Black Cat. Who knows though.
I understand the Catwoman movie was not based on the Batman's Catwoman but still if you are a comic fan and you know Batman's Rogue's Gallery than you know about Catwoman and when you hear that a Catwoman movie is being made you think it is the same until you find out it is not and then you get disappointed because you expected something different. My point is that Catwoman was changed to be someone different than from that of the Batman mythos. What is to stop them from making Gwen Stacy into Black Cat? Why did Sam Raimi change Spider-Man's webshooters to be like his 2099 counter part instead of the actual comic character? Because writers of scripts can write whatever they want to and whatever they are told to write also. Now I am not saying that Gwen will be Black Cat but I am saying that the writers can make it possible even though it would be wrong for them to do it.
I think Jake Gyllenhaal would be good as Spidey if Tobey doesn't want to do anymore films. Also, Kirsten leaving is only better, coz she's starting to look like a necrofiend. As for villains, The Lizard is a must! Add in Electro/Morbius/Silver Sable and we have a winner! The spidey movies need a female villain, scream (/screech?) would be good too, if Morbius is there.
Let's kick out Spider-man 4 and bring out a Venom moive!!! :P
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=4303
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4249&Itemid=99
Yeah, but Venom's dead in the movies, and I hate that whole 'bring a character back to life because they're popular' thing. I'll probably see it either way :P
Quote from: Teancum on March 18, 2008, 04:20AM
Yeah, but Venom's dead in the movies
Not if you read the IMDB forums, some people cling onto the fact that Venom's not dead, resorting to blind stupidity to support their hope...
The movie doesn't have to continue with the Spider-man 3 storyline. In fact, it doesn't need to reference to the Spider-man movies at all. :P
Well if you guys remember Dr. Connors had a small little sample of the symbiote in his office in Spiderman 3. That could mean Mac Gargan could get it after his Scorpion sequence ends. Personally though Shocker 100% obvious would be a character I would love to see in another Spiderman film. Having the technology we use today they could do a crazy job putting him together as well as Scorpion!
(http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/1473/14733804e6134800c5fba92caac1ec5e3c1efe0.jpg)
Quote from: Overload on March 18, 2008, 01:05PM
Shocker 100% obvious would be a character I would love to see in another Spiderman film.
I second that.
I'm sure they wouldn't put any characters which have already appeared in the games based on the movie trilogy. In other words, I believe that Shocker, Vulture, Scorpion, Mysterio, Rhino, Puma, Electro, Lizard, Kingpin, Carlyle and those who have already died are NOT likely to appear in Spider-Man 4 (unfortunately), although they probably will in another game.
My guess is that Carnage would be the main villain of the next film :carnage:
Well thats the thing Dark Mark. If you say the characters from the game that died arnt in the movies how come shocker was in the ps1 enter electro game and then in Spiderman 2 game? And Shocker never died in that game. He actually pwned Black Cat at the warehouse and left.Carnage was in enter electro and I think he was defeated. So technically that is not true.
1.
Quote from: Overload on March 19, 2008, 11:58AMIf you say the characters from the game that died arnt in the movies
I said something totally different:
Quote from: Dark_Mark on March 19, 2008, 08:07AM
I believe that Shocker, Vulture, Scorpion, Mysterio, Rhino, Puma, Electro, Lizard, Kingpin, Carlyle and those who have already died (I meant Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus and Eddie Brock)
2.
Quote from: Overload on March 19, 2008, 11:58AMAnd Shocker never died in that game.
I didn't say that he died either.
3.
Quote from: Overload on March 19, 2008, 11:58AMhow come shocker was in the ps1 enter electro game and then in Spiderman 2 game?
The movies are set in a different continuity than the Classic Earth 616. In other words, the Shocker from PS2 Spider-Man 1 and 2 has nothing to do with the one from PSX Enter Electro. Note that in Spider-Man: Movie Shocker introduces himself to Spidey, which means that they haven't met before.
Ahh I see what you meant now... had to read it again to understand. My bad Dark Mark!!
I forgot that things in some games are set at different "timelines" in Marvel. Still though, I have some hope he can somehow be shown in Spiderman 4.