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Poll
Question: Who would win?
Option 1: X-Men votes: 40
Option 2: Avengers votes: 17
Option 3: Draw votes: 3
Title: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on August 30, 2009, 02:41PM
I'm using these members for the team. 14 members each

X-Men: Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Storm, Iceman, Beast, Angel, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Psylocke, Professor X, Shadowcat, Gambit, Havok, Polaris
:cyclops: :phoenix: :wolverine: :storm: :iceman: :beast:  :angel_hero: :colossus: :nightcrawler: :rogue: :psylocke:  :xavier:  :kittyp: :gambit: :havok: :polaris:

Avengers: Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Wasp, Giant-Man, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Black Panther, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Luke Cage, Spider-Woman, Captain Marvel, Ronin
:capamer: :stark: :thor: :wasp: :archangel: :scarletw:  :vision: :warbird: :shehulk: :panther:  :hawkeye: :blackwidow: :pman: :spiderwoman: :genis: :ronin:

Anyway all characters at current power levels except for these characters.

Jean - She isn't White Phoenix as lets just say on Earth she can't use the WP powers unless in White Hot Room. So she is regular Phoenix.
Thor - Lets say Thor was in a great battle a while ago so he is weakened a little and thus not as powerful as he is usually right now.
Wanda - She has mental blocks in her mind so she can't alter reality for stuff as big as Decimation but she has very powerful hexes still.
Rogue - Just for those who don't know Rogue doesn't have Ms. Marvel powers but she does have control over her power.

I'd have to go with X-Men due to their large number of psychics but I can see some Avengers members holding their own.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: BLaw on August 30, 2009, 02:52PM
Prof X psy-blocks the whole place. X-Men win.

Seriously, none of the Avengers have any mental protection. Perhaps Ironman could have it in his armor, but Wolverine will slice it to pieces.

I.o.w. X-Men win. The only char I find useless is Angel XD
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on August 30, 2009, 02:52PM
He has his Archangel ability. One thing I do think could work is Wanda putting a hex that blocks mental control.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: TheStorm on August 30, 2009, 02:56PM
I'd put my money on the X-Men :)

Definitely
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on August 30, 2009, 03:03PM
When I first did the roster for 10 people on each team Avengers had all the powerhouses. When I extended the team it seems X-Men would win.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on August 31, 2009, 03:16AM
Well, I think Avengers. For me, they are like the Best Super Hero Team!
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: xlehnsherr on August 31, 2009, 04:35AM
The Avengers are a bunch of sissies! Not to mention that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are "traitors of their cause" as their father likes to say. Hats off, X-Men win! No contest! Just get Professor "Chuck" Xavier to hide the X-Men telepathically and send in Cyclops and Wolverine! You can consider the work as done!

And about Iron Man, let's not forget his armor is metal! It would take nanoseconds for Polaris (not even Magneto has to be there) to tear it apart! There are tons of ways to kick Stark's butt! Send in Colossus to sit on him and crush him, Wolverine to slice him up real nice, much like an 8" pizza, Iceman to freeze his ass down to absolute zero and so on, so on. Making it simple, Stark maybe a genious inventor, whatever, but is still human and... a big sissy...

What I mean? The Avengers suck big time if compared to the mutants! They have to rely on something man made, while the X-pupils do not.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Revanchist on August 31, 2009, 04:50AM
Definitely Avengers,I guess someone just forget "House of M" (And Scarlet Witch) end of discussion.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: xlehnsherr on August 31, 2009, 05:10AM
Quote from: Revanchist on August 31, 2009, 04:50AM
Definitely Avengers,I guess someone just forget "House of M" (And Scarlet Witch) end of discussion.

Please see the first post!
"Wanda - She has mental blocks in her mind so she can't alter reality for stuff as big as Decimation but she has very powerful hexes still."
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Revanchist on August 31, 2009, 06:47AM
Well,that's a bit non-objective after all,but still Avengers ,Captain America's fighting skills(which better than most of X-Men,maybe all of them) ,and not even Scarlet Witch not in her full power ,she can do things X-Boys can't imagine(Actually she was doing pretty good stuff at last Mighty Avengers issues.) Let's see,also even a weak Thor can't just get down that easier ,some of X-Men can't defeat so easily but less powerfull boys not that lucky(Even Wolverine) Also,Wanda is an unstable little girl ,no one has ever dreamed of she can do something like that before House of M ,even mental blocks like her's can't hold her for long...She just need a reminder and then everything goes down for X-Boys...
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: BLaw on August 31, 2009, 07:17AM
Wolverine can beat Cap. Consider that he has more training in various combat styles than Cap.
I agree on the Thor thing though. Still, Xavier will metalblock the whole place.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on August 31, 2009, 07:33AM
I don't know, can't imagine they fighting. But, as I read here everything, everyone goes with "Prof X would mental block this, mental block that". I mean, come on, everyone sounds like the X-Men is nothing without Prof X's mental powers.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: xlehnsherr on August 31, 2009, 07:44AM
Well, even if we don't got Professor X, we still got Phoenix, Psylocke or Emma Frost (not listed though) and their telepathic abilities are also incredible powerful!
And let's say a direct combat, without any kind of mental block, it is still a showdown favor to the x-team!
I'll agree with Blaw! Wolverine could definitely beat Cap. As for Thor, even if he were at his best shape, he couldn't stand combined attacks simultaneously.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Revanchist on August 31, 2009, 07:54AM
Wolverine ,Phoenix are just overrated characters... I mean how long Phoenix Saga can continue? When did it start 70's ,80's ,90's...People had done with it at 2000's(2004-Endsong,but still there's some work for to resurrect her.)And Wolverine even all of those healing power,sharper senses ,he ain't an omega mutant,like I said Wolverine and Phoenix overrated ,but Scarlet Witch things are new ,she has still some credits too do something,and there's certainly a reason to call Steve Rogers,"Captain America" ,unbeateble on hand-to-hand combat (Also ,we can see Wolverine "can" beaten by his own son on Wolverine Origins issues ,surely there was some "emotional" reason on it but ,still he tried to get Daken down,but couldn't do it really)Nobody mentioned Storm's power ,she got some moves certainly,she is more powerfull than as she looks ,but against a God,she has a chance?I don't think so. Like everyone said ,if Prof. X only X-Men got ,then this battle is done ,before it's started...(I don't think ,Psylocke had certain on what's she doing ,she allways has a chaos and a dilemma on her mind,and this could use against her.)(And would you please, put your fan-boy and girl tags a side,and get being realistic and objective? Even I don't like both teams completly(There's some members I like from both teams,for sure) ,but still I'm standing on my cause.)
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: BLaw on August 31, 2009, 08:00AM
If you've read some issues of Wolverine Origins (pre-daken) you could see that Cap was beaten by Wolverine. And if Cap may use the shield, so may Wolverine use the Muramasa blade XD

Even without the blade, Cap is done for.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: xlehnsherr on August 31, 2009, 08:04AM
Well, if you put it that way, well, personally, I've always thought that Vision is awesome and She-Hulk (only if written by Byrne) is very cool too.

I've always been fan of the X-Men stories and some of the Avengers stories too, but I think that during a certain period (80's or 90's can't remember, I haven't read comics for years) the stories were very good written by Claremont.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Revanchist on August 31, 2009, 09:09AM
Actually ,I didn't read 70's ,80's ,90's comics either ,I just catch some bottom line from some comics(This is like "previously" scene on Tv Shows.)Also ,I said hand-to-hand combat which includes none weapon,but you said that too clearly,still one fight not determine the results of it,there's allways rematch to put this things clear(Civil War:Captain America vs. Iron Man),and Wolverine Origins ,doing for Wolverine fans ,we can't expect to let him lose(except Daken)(And no offence but She-Hulk was just a copy of good character which getting best-seller comics...Like Skaar,son of Hulk ...Actually ,lately ,Marvel has a problem at creativity ,they just put teams together with famous characters or getting clear famous characters memories ,or just giving some kinsman to famous characters or resurrect them and on and on and on...Even,Bendis doing it ,which one of the most succesfull writers they had...This part was a little overreacted,I admit ^^)
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Quentin Hex on August 31, 2009, 11:38AM
vision can't be mind controlled,  has super strength, shoots lasers out of his eyes, can fly, can go intangible, and if you are referring to the most recent "iron lad" version of him, he has all of iron man's powers and more. meaning he could probably take out the telepaths, with the scarlet witch's help, so the other avengers are back in the scene, and i'm pretty sure the avengers would win at that point.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: BLaw on August 31, 2009, 11:41AM
Shadowcat vs. Vision it is :P
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on August 31, 2009, 12:09PM
Quote from: deedooo on August 31, 2009, 11:38AM
vision can't be mind controlled,  has super strength, shoots lasers out of his eyes, can fly, can go intangible, and if you are referring to the most recent "iron lad" version of him, he has all of iron man's powers and more. meaning he could probably take out the telepaths, with the scarlet witch's help, so the other avengers are back in the scene, and i'm pretty sure the avengers would win at that point.
I've read today, that Vision is not immune to telepathy. I think.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: whiteking on August 31, 2009, 12:16PM
Scarlet Witch and Sentry are mentally unstable, both are easy targets for Emma, Jean or Xavier's powers, and the "only" telepath in the team is Xavier, Emma has her diamond form and Jean and Betsy are telekinetics as well.

Quote from: Iron Fist and Deadpool on August 31, 2009, 07:33AM
But, as I read here everything, everyone goes with "Prof X would mental block this, mental block that". I mean, come on, everyone sounds like the X-Men is nothing without Prof X's mental powers.

Jean is an omega level mutant, so her powers are far superior to Xavier, and Emma Frost powers has been cited as equal to Xavier's so if he's on the team or not, it's not really important.

I think it would be an epic fight but I think that the Xmen has high chances to win...

:emmafrost:
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on August 31, 2009, 12:44PM
Yeah I think that Rogue would already be tough due to her absorbing power. Iron Man is nothing with Polaris but she isn't on the team but hello Jean can control anything so she is more than a match for him.

I think at the end Thor, Wanda, Jean, and Xavier are the most powerful from both team. But both Jean and Xavier are poweful psychics and thus can defeat both Thor and Wanda.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on August 31, 2009, 01:13PM
I added Havok and Polaris to X-Men.
And Ronin and Captain Marvel to Avengers.

The final additions to the teams.

Make your new votes now.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: nodoubt_jr on August 31, 2009, 01:54PM
I havent read the other posts yet, but im guessing the Avengers would win.  The X-Men are just a bunch a mutants that came together, while the Avengers are a collection of the greatest superheroes, with most of them able to take down major enemies all by themselves. So i think the Avengers would win.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Quentin Hex on August 31, 2009, 03:54PM
there is the fact that the fact the the rosters and strengths of teams are directly related to the circumstances and the writer(s).
and building on what nodoubt_jr said, most of the avengers have had successful, long running solo series, more so than the x-men, who have a lot of spin-offs, and many of their rare solo careers ended relatively quickly relative to the avengers. and the avengers more often than not have public and governments support (shield and stark industries, to be specific).
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on August 31, 2009, 04:06PM
Yeah but public support doesn't help them in a battle like this.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Quentin Hex on August 31, 2009, 04:09PM
i guess, but are they just put in a room and told "fight"?
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: ThePhoenix on September 01, 2009, 07:01AM
X-men would win definitelly. Avengers wouldn't stand a chance. It would become a long battle but still X-men would win. And if Jean would possess the full power of the Phoenix she could alone kill all the Avengers in a second. (I know Jean doesn't fully possess the power of the Phoenix in this poll, but couldn't stop myself saying that)

And the X-men have many psychics they could together freeze if not all then most of the Avengers. And the rest could be defeated by the rest of the X-men.

Yeah, X-men would win

:xmen_logo:
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Negimia on September 01, 2009, 09:19AM
marvelfan12345, you do know Hawkeye and Ronin are the same person, unless you're referring to the first Ronin (Echo) or the Young Avengers Hawkeye.

X-Men would win hands down, because they have Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Colossus.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 01, 2009, 10:10AM
Quote from: Negimia on September 01, 2009, 09:19AM
X-Men would win hands down, because they have Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Colossus.
Well, you forgot, that the Avengers have Thor, Captain Marvel and Vision, who are quite strong alone.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: ThePhoenix on September 01, 2009, 10:19AM
Quote from: Iron Fist and Deadpool on September 01, 2009, 10:10AM
Well, you forgot, that the Avengers have Thor, Captain Marvel and Vision, who are quite strong alone.
But so are many of the X-Men as well. Wolverine, Colossus, Iceman, Jean Grey, Nightcrawler(sometimes)... Just to name a few
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 01, 2009, 10:30AM
Quote from: ThePhoenix on September 01, 2009, 10:19AM
But so are many of the X-Men as well. Wolverine, Colossus, Iceman, Jean Grey, Nightcrawler(sometimes)... Just to name a few
Yeah, but lets think. That three could take these out (most of them), but with the help of the other Avengers, well...the results would be fatal.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:39PM
negimia - Yes the Ronin is Echo.

thephoenix - Jean is the same as Phoenix as they are one being but she is slightly weakend so you are right not at full power.

iron fist and deapdool - i see them being able to take out all except Jean and Wolverine. But remember the other x-men which all feature powerful psychics.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 02, 2009, 04:48AM
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on September 01, 2009, 12:39PM
negimia - Yes the Ronin is Echo.

thephoenix - Jean is the same as Phoenix as they are one being but she is slightly weakend so you are right not at full power.

iron fist and deapdool - i see them being able to take out all except Jean and Wolverine. But remember the other x-men which all feature powerful psychics.
Why can't they take out Wolvie? I mean, the Hulk was able to take him out in a minute in World War Hulk. He is not that powerful. And his bone is metal and with Thor's lightning, well, he would be fried in, even if he can heal hisself, it would take a long time.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:40PM
Well perhaps but his healing could be accelerated by any psychic.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Quentin Hex on September 02, 2009, 06:24PM
i cannot see that working...
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on September 03, 2009, 02:58AM
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on September 02, 2009, 12:40PM
Well perhaps but his healing could be accelerated by any psychic.
Oh yeah, psychic could destroy anything! You guys always say, psychics this and psychics that. Without them, the X-Men would be nothing.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: nodoubt_jr on September 03, 2009, 02:51PM
Quote from: Iron Fist and Deadpool on September 03, 2009, 02:58AM
Oh yeah, psychic could destroy anything! You guys always say, psychics this and psychics that. Without them, the X-Men would be nothing.

Thats not true, there has been many times that no psychic has been active on the team and they still kicked ass.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 03, 2009, 02:53PM
Yeah psychics can just boost others but it would be hard but still possible.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: piutebob on September 04, 2009, 01:30PM
Oh, I see.
I hack into your mind and you start regenerating very quickly.
I wish.
I still think that the X-Men would win, most likely.
Quite frankly, I'm not a very big Captain America fan, and I'm not as much into Thor as I used to be.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 04, 2009, 01:34PM
Yes psychics could do that but Sage would be the best. Imagine them in the Danger Room with tiled floors and walls. The announcer says fight and they do. No simulations, traps, holograms, or anything but a giant space like a football field.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: piutebob on September 04, 2009, 01:40PM
I don't play or watch football...
How about a overgrown basketball court? (I don't play or watch that, either, but at least I have a better idea of what it'd look like...)
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: marvelfan12345 on September 04, 2009, 01:41PM
No but that is too small. I don't play football either or care about it but just look for images.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: piutebob on September 04, 2009, 01:43PM
I was just joking.
But anyways, Nightcrawler could just teleport from enemy to enemy stabbing their little eyeses out...
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: gozillayh on April 11, 2010, 12:02AM
x-men wins, for they have 2 omega level mutants
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Nowhere Man on April 11, 2010, 12:29AM
I gotta give it to the avengers. they have the most powerful superhero of the marvel universe - Thor. they also have omega lvl mutant Scarlet Witch. they also have one of the best energy drainers there is Miss Marvel (unlike Havok, who only absorbs cosmic energy). 2 of the greatest minds of the world: Tony Stark and Yellowjacket. Several members resistant to telepathy. Captain Marvel, who has cosmic awareness (very very dangerous power). And they are led by the best field-leader in the entire marvel universe: Captain America.

so what if the X-Men has 2 omegas (maybe 3) omegas? Iceman hasn't even begun to use his full potential, Jean gave her tk to psylocke, so is currently only a telepath without the phoenix force.

I think the X-Men don't stand a chance. and I'm not being partial at all. Love both teams.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: mj fan on April 11, 2010, 01:09AM
x men for sure
even if she is not at full power she can beat the phoenix (look phoenix endsong with emma frost .....)
psychics can destrow anything
With their 2 omega level mutants I think that the X-Men would win...
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on April 11, 2010, 01:18AM
Quote from: mj fan on April 11, 2010, 01:09AM
x men for sure
even if she is not at full power she can beat the phoenix (look phoenix endsong with emma frost .....)
psychics can destrow anything
With their 2 omega level mutants I think that the X-Men would win...
You're too passionate in this. I mean, "Psychics can destroy anything"? Not totally sure about that. Plus, if the X-Men is so cool, than why couldn't they defeat Hulk in WWH? Not like Dr. Strange and Sentry. They've really gave hulk a beating.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Ztony on April 11, 2010, 05:19AM
Prof X will just go into someone's mind and make them an ally, losing battle for avengers from there on.

else phoenix will disintregate their whole team in 1 blow.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: xxxxx on April 11, 2010, 05:23AM
I thought that most of the X-men lost their powers? I root for Avengers.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on April 11, 2010, 08:27AM
Quote from: Nowhere Man on April 11, 2010, 12:29AM
I gotta give it to the avengers. they have the most powerful superhero of the marvel universe - Thor. they also have omega lvl mutant Scarlet Witch. they also have one of the best energy drainers there is Miss Marvel (unlike Havok, who only absorbs cosmic energy). 2 of the greatest minds of the world: Tony Stark and Yellowjacket. Several members resistant to telepathy. Captain Marvel, who has cosmic awareness (very very dangerous power). And they are led by the best field-leader in the entire marvel universe: Captain America.

so what if the X-Men has 2 omegas (maybe 3) omegas? Iceman hasn't even begun to use his full potential, Jean gave her tk to psylocke, so is currently only a telepath without the phoenix force.

I think the X-Men don't stand a chance. and I'm not being partial at all. Love both teams.

Jean has tk. Psylocke has it too, but Jean has it (she got tk back in Morrison's run). She is fully bonded with the Phoenix as one being, but not White Phoenix (I prefer to think that she can only use that great power in the White Hot Room). Rachel beat Galactus as a host to the Phoenix so Jean would be able to beat Galactus. Now if Thor is stronger than Galactus, I don't know but I could see Jean winning against Thor.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Nowhere Man on April 11, 2010, 09:14AM
ok, considering Jean with full use of the Phoenix Force is even unfair, it's one of the most powerful cosmic entities in the marvel universe. I was thinking of Morrison's Jean that only had a spec of it and was definitely nowhere near omnipotent...so much that she was killed by Xorn.

Quote from: mj fan on April 11, 2010, 01:09AM
psychics can destrow anything

Hardly. Cap Marvel is immune to tp. Ironman's armor also grants him immunity. Vision is a synthozoid and therefore is highly resistant to it. Cap America has one of the strogest wills there is and several tps, including the oh so mighty Thanos, have failed to control him. Thor's pure magic, also highly resistant. Wanda was being monitored by profx himself when she went insane and he had a hard time entering her mind and couldn't prevent her from depowering most mutants.

you guys get way too impressed with the "omega lvl" status. does anyone here think Elixir could beat Thor? or even Cap America for that matter? come on. POTENTIAL for power. most of them aren't even close to the real bigshots.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on April 11, 2010, 10:17AM
Plus, at the first post, it was said, that Jean is a regular Phoenix in this topic, not a super-full-potential-mega-giga-omega-mutant. OK, she is tough, but she can be beaten too.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: mj fan on April 11, 2010, 01:47PM
QuoteYou're too passionate in this. I mean, "Psychics can destroy anything"? Not totally sure about that. Plus, if the X-Men is so cool, than why couldn't they defeat Hulk in WWH? Not like Dr. Strange and Sentry. They've really gave hulk a beating.

because in the world war hulk ,he have defeated lot's of heroes (like black bolt, iron man......)
Indeed he is stronger than cap and all the others (not sentry and strange)
I can say that jean is strongest than hulk ,Strange and Sentry (Hulk won because she wasn't here during the attack)
Jean have the power of the Phoenix
Charles didn't have resisted....
QuotePlus, at the first post, it was said, that Jean is a regular Phoenix in this topic, not a super-full-potential-mega-giga-omega-mutant. OK, she is tough, but she can be beaten too.
Indeed she can but not with hulk......
Look for exemple the Red Hulk with the power of Silver Surfer and Terrax, he is strong yes but he has been beatten by Galactus

QuoteJean has tk. Psylocke has it too, but Jean has it (she got tk back in Morrison's run). She is fully bonded with the Phoenix as one being, but not White Phoenix (I prefer to think that she can only use that great power in the White Hot Room). Rachel beat Galactus as a host to the Phoenix so Jean would be able to beat Galactus. Now if Thor is stronger than Galactus, I don't know but I could see Jean winning against Thor.
Yeah and i don't think that avengers are as strong as Galactus..........................
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Seth on April 12, 2010, 04:30AM
I am 100% sure that X-men WINS...It is true that the avengers are great heroes and very strong BUT the x-men are a team from the beginning and know what teamwork means...it would be a hard battle but even if Jean doesn't have all the power of the phoenix they can make a good plan...First Xavier can read their minds and find out what they are planning, then they make a good strategy and BANG! Even if there is Thor, Scarlet Witch (which I really like) and Ironman the x-men have more powerful mutants...Lets just say that Iceman freezes Cap. America, Polaris takes care of Ironman, Jean, Storm and Emma Frost takes care of Thor and Scarlet witch and the rest of the X-men (Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Rogue, Professor Xavier etc. etc.) just play with the rest...The end  :naughty:
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: mj fan on April 12, 2010, 04:33AM
QuoteI am 100% sure that X-men WINS...It is true that the avengers are great heroes and very strong BUT the x-men are a team from the beginning and and know what teamwork means...it would be a hard battle but even if Jean doesn't have all the power of the phoenix they can make a good plan...First Xavier can read their minds and find out what they are planning, then they make a good strategy and BANG! Even if there is Thor, Scarlet Witch (which I really like) and Ironman the x-men have more powerful mutants...Lets just say that Iceman freezes Cap. America, Polaris takes care of Ironman, Jean, Storm and Emma Frost takes care of Thor and Scarlet witch and the rest of the X-men (Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Rogue, Professor Xavier etc. etc.) just play with the rest...The end 
100% AGREE WITH YOU  ;D
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Ztony on April 12, 2010, 06:03AM
When can we expect a movie? :D
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Seth on April 12, 2010, 06:16AM
Any time soon....  :laugh:
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: ToxicCookie on April 12, 2010, 07:50AM
Definitely x-men. They have xavier : D
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: LX - Rampage on April 12, 2010, 08:53AM
Quote from: ToxicCookie on April 12, 2010, 07:50AM
Definitely x-men. They have xavier : D
If Xavier is such a big gun, than why is he captured at the moment? Say something about this.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Seth on April 12, 2010, 09:03AM
Because...like any other big gun (as you say) he has his weaknesses too and he was careless...that could happen to any other else...for example Odin is captured too in the game! And I think that if a god can be captured (who is very powerful) then Xavier can be captured too...
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on April 12, 2010, 02:23PM
Regular Phoenix is technically the 70s Phoenix entity that replaced Jean. So that is the power Jean would have as regular Phoenix. In the 70s Firelord said that Phoenix hit harder than Thor. So Jean bonded with Phoenix into one being is just as powerful as that. However the Avengers have Thor and Captain Marvel. Plus Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, and Scarlet Witch are very powerful too. I hope that made Jean's power clear.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: darkness4575 on April 12, 2010, 09:25PM
im gonna have to say x men easy

im pretty sure that at least 5 of the mutants are omega level mutants...yea im sure of it
second, prof x and jean together would b too much for the avengers trow in wolverine and storm and its over.
the only ppl who i think would still b left standin is Thor (god), CaptainMarvel(a beast), captain america(the guy survived an explosion in ww2 fell in the ocean and froze than came back to life still kickin ass)
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: kanonsaga on April 13, 2010, 08:09AM
The X-men, despite Avengers possess some of the best Marvel heroes, the X-men have, Jean :phoenix:, Cyclops :cyclops:, Storm :storm:, Emma :emmafrost:,Gambit :gambit:,Iceman :iceman: and many others, the Phoenix would decimate them all.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: fabyow on April 13, 2010, 08:56AM
the X-Men 10-6
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Blackhawk99 on April 15, 2010, 05:27PM
I think it'd be a heck of a fight but I think the Avengers would pull it off.  With the amount of resources available to them and with the leadership of Iron Man and Cap, the Avengers would beat the X-Men. 
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on April 15, 2010, 05:33PM
Quote from: kanonsaga on April 13, 2010, 08:09AM
The X-men, despite Avengers possess some of the best Marvel heroes, the X-men have, Jean :phoenix:, Cyclops :cyclops:, Storm :storm:, Emma :emmafrost:,Gambit :gambit:,Iceman :iceman: and many others, the Phoenix would decimate them all.
Emma is not actually in the lineup. I wouldn't mind adding more team members to the team rosters, but my previous account started it so I can't. However if I did add new characters to both teams, some people may change their minds and I don't think you can change your votes, so that could cause a problem.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: kiadar on April 15, 2010, 06:31PM
X-mem win.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: nettuno on April 17, 2010, 01:29PM
x-men is the best just leave it to miss. frost
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: xxxxx on April 18, 2010, 03:35PM
What if we removed Xavier and Jean Grey and two avengers, who would win then?
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on April 18, 2010, 03:58PM
Depends on the 2 avengers. The removal of Jean would cause a huge difference, and Xavier would make the X-Men's matter even worse.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: whiteking on April 18, 2010, 04:16PM
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on April 18, 2010, 03:58PM
Depends on the 2 avengers. The removal of Jean would cause a huge difference, and Xavier would make the X-Men's matter even worse.

Not necessarily, the x men has demostrated strength with or without Jean and Xavier...
I can give you Jean since she has more power (phoenix like or pure psychic), but Xavier can be replaced since Emma Frost and even the Stepford Cuckoos has demostrated to have the same, if not more power than him.
If you remove Phoenix, you should remove Thor, that would make sense to me, since if i'm right you are portraying Jean as a full entity with the Phoenix, correct?
Anyway back on topic, I say it would be a draw, since both teams has their strenghts and weakness, but I'll give my vote to the xmen since they have my favorite character in their team (and I'm not talking about the team assembled on the fist page of this topic ^^)
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: rpm on April 18, 2010, 04:34PM
Quote from: marvelfan12345 on August 30, 2009, 02:41PM
I'm using these members for the team. 14 members each

X-Men: Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Storm, Iceman, Beast, Angel, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Psylocke, Professor X, Shadowcat, Gambit, Havok, Polaris

Avengers: Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Wasp, Giant-Man, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Black Panther, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Luke Cage, Spider-Woman, Captain Marvel, Ronin


This is how I see the battle going down:

Professor X and Jean Grey neutralize a huge swath of the Avengers with psychic abilities, maybe even make a mental suggestion that they assist the X-Men. Let's say that leaves Vision, Thor, and maybe Iron Man (due to some psychic-dampening tech). They would be hard-pressed to win this fight. Beast will try (but fail) to re-program Vision or Iron Man's armor. Thor would probably defeat a large portion of the Avengers, but would ultimately be contained through cunning. Wolverine would probably be killed, and then regenerate. Hurrah!

So, I say X-Men ftw.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Nightwolf on April 18, 2010, 04:49PM
 :phoenix:  :wolverine: For me wolvie and Jean are enough to do damage to the avengers add the rest and i'd think they'd win
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Seth on April 19, 2010, 07:40AM
It doesn't matter if you remove Jean and Xavier because there are other great mutants in the team...the difference would be that the battle will last more, but still the x-men would be the winners  ;D
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on April 19, 2010, 12:37PM
By huge difference I meant that the X-Men would still win but the battle would be harder and longer. I should have said it more properly.
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Proteus on April 20, 2010, 03:28AM
It seems to me that their forces are equal, and consequently hardly who that will win!
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: El Maiz on June 03, 2010, 06:13AM
I say remove
Phoenix
Thor
Scarlet Witch
Prof X
Iceman
Cap Marvel.

The who wins?
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2010, 10:13AM
X-men...They are too good to be beaten  ;D
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: Jeanfan321 on June 03, 2010, 05:32PM
X-men would win nodoubt Jean and pro x can just send out a psychic wave and that would be it
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: White Fan on June 23, 2010, 09:16AM
the X-Men have more experience working as a team....im for the X-men
Title: Re: X-Men VS Avengers
Post by: X-Men 55 on June 24, 2010, 08:27PM
The X-Men would win. They have a better team.