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Title: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 20, 2010, 03:03PM
Which deaths do you think are the most memorable?
I have 3, all classics.

:phoenix: Jean Grey of course is in my list. Her "first death" on the moon when she sacrificed herself. Although it technically wasn't her that died but the Phoenix Force, it was Jean's humanity that caused the Phoenix to commit suicide which is what makes it so memorable. Anyway a part of Jean was in that body that died.

:emmafrost: Gwen Stacy had a really sad but another classic death. Had she not died we wouldn't have a great story and Mary Jane would never have been as popular as she is today. Not to mention Green Goblin wouldn't have had such a huge impact on Spider-Man then.

:genis: Captain Marvel is one of the few heroes who is super powerful yet all it took to kill him was a natural thing which was cancer. Not being thrown off a bridge, blasted into smitherens, or anything but just cancer. He defintally had an impact on the marvel universe with his death.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on July 20, 2010, 04:27PM
Another:
First Goliath/Bill Foster at Civil War Saga, kill by Thor Clone/Ragnarok

:capamer:/Now being called Captain Steve Rogers: at Civil War Ends/Death of Cap Saga Once believe he was dead & killed by an hypnotised Sharon Carter. But he's not. He's body was taken to '40.

:stooth:: Revealed that he was X-Men's importance after  :wolverine: kills him w/ Muramasa Blade.

:nightcrawler:: at the Dark Reign & Captain America Reborn Saga X-Force & X-Men,  :confused: what happen to him

Sentry: at Siege Saga Thor had no choice to kill him because he has the Void inside of him

Now....... :cable:: at Second Coming.  :ohnoes: Ok, now i'm frighten, i don't liked to seeing so many popular Super/Anti Heroes died in memorable.

I believe Jean Grey was still alive, she wears White Phoenix. I saw the cover of  :wolverine: origin that showns  :wolverine: & his sons Dark :wolverine: costume in blood, is he dead or something.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Dihan on July 20, 2010, 04:50PM
I can't think of single deaths so I'll give my most memorable collective deaths:

Stryker's attack on the mansion after the events of House of M. Those poor depowered kids didn't stand a chance.
Ultimatum. Memorable for the entirely wrong reasons.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Nowhere Man on July 20, 2010, 05:14PM
Nitro's explosion of Stamford.

as for individuals:

Colossus sacrificing himself to cure the Legacy Virus was great, very touching.

The Phoenix's original death at the end of the Dark Phoenix Saga. Till this day regarded as one of the best X-Men stories ever.

Bucky's death at the end of the Golden Age cause it defined a moment in comics history.

Gwen Stacy, also legendary, also defined a moment in comics history, when things started to get serious and not just "here comes the heroes to save the day".

Captain Marvel dying of cancer was great. 10 points just for the originality of having a superhero die of an illness.

Xavier in Age of Apocalypse cause it's what started the whole thing.

Thor in Ragnarok cause it's the best Thor saga ever IMO.

Thunderbird cause it was the first death amog the X-Men that came to show that title meant business.

Wonderman for the same reason with the Avengers.

Squidboy, cause he was just so nice and I didn't see it coming.

Elektra, cause it was just totally awesome and is also still regarded as one of the best DD stories ever.

Yeah, those are the ones I remember right away so, by definition: memorable.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on July 21, 2010, 03:35AM
Now i didnt read any comics, Marvel comic database is there for, most memorable deaths from me

Captian America : Honestly, i feel so sad for the guy. After it was all over he had to get shot. Sad ending :*(

Namorita : Honestly i didnt care much for the character, but that must be one hell of a painfull death, its like holding a bomb when it explodes

Carnage : As a kid i loved Carnage, he was defnitly one of my number 1 characters. I just wished a survived a little longer

Nightcrawler : He sacrificed himself to. Sacrifises are always sad

Jean's first death : Honestly. All explained above ^^. But at that moment i didnt know she be back next week XD

Captain M. ^^ explained all above

and Colossus, cus i felt sad for Kitty :*(
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 21, 2010, 08:32AM
A lot of yours are really great like Colossus, Nightcrawler, Elektra, Bucky, Cap, etc. And Stamford was really sad too especially for the kids.  Honestly the only member of the New Warriors I had a care about who died was Namorita.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Jeanfan321 on July 21, 2010, 08:53AM
It's a shame how they died too.

I felt sad for Elektra being stabed with her own sai.Even though she got brought back to life but still i thought it was sad.Even the death of Jean Grey how she sacrificed her life to save her friends and destroy the phoenix force.....
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Kano9 on July 22, 2010, 08:19PM
I've always loved the Days Of Future Past X-men storyline. The cover (with so many great X-men characters deceased or still at large on a newspaper page) still makes my heart skip a beat. If you don't know... Kitty ultimately saves the day in this two parter with the help of Rachel (the then unknown daughter of Cyclops and Jean from an alternate timeline) and stops these terrible events from taking place.

Shocking Death's

1. Future Wolverine (Disintegrated by an Omega Sentinel)

2. Future Storm (Impaled by an Omega Sentinels spear)

3. Future Colossus (After witnessing the deaths of Logan & Storm... last man standing, he continues to fight until Rachel can no longer feel his lifeforce)

4. Grown up Franklin Richards (Shot by a Sentinel in the subway tunnels right in front of Rachel... his girlfriend)

5. Future Magneto... in a wheelchair (Stays behind and gives his life to cover the X-men's escape)

6. The future graveyard (which displayed the names of several fallen heroes) such as: Iceman, Nightcrawler, Beast, Spiderman and the FF

All are quite memorable... :storm: :wolverine: :colossus: :kittyp:
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Kano9 on July 22, 2010, 08:28PM
Quote from: Nowhere Man on July 20, 2010, 05:14PM
Colossus sacrificing himself to cure the Legacy Virus was great, very touching.


And especially this  :bowdown1:
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 23, 2010, 09:35AM
Quote from: mrcaino9 on July 22, 2010, 08:19PM
I've always loved the Days Of Future Past X-men storyline. The cover (with so many great X-men characters deceased or still at large on a newspaper page) still makes my heart skip a beat. If you don't know... Kitty ultimately saves the day in this two parter with the help of Rachel (the then unknown daughter of Cyclops and Jean from an alternate timeline) and stops these terrible events from taking place.

Shocking Death's

1. Future Wolverine (Disintegrated by an Omega Sentinel)

2. Future Storm (Impaled by an Omega Sentinels spear)

3. Future Colossus (After witnessing the deaths of Logan & Storm... last man standing, he continues to fight until Rachel can no longer feel his lifeforce)

4. Grown up Franklin Richards (Shot by a Sentinel in the subway tunnels right in front of Rachel... his girlfriend)

5. Future Magneto... in a wheelchair (Stays behind and gives his life to cover the X-men's escape)

6. The future graveyard (which displayed the names of several fallen heroes) such as: Iceman, Nightcrawler, Beast, Spiderman and the FF

All are quite memorable... :storm: :wolverine: :colossus: :kittyp:
Those deaths were really sad too and I think many Avengers were killed to, including Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. Prof X was already killed during the initial attack on the X-Mansion. I know Jean was killed in a bomb attack but I don't remember how Cyke died. After Jean's death though.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: LX - Rampage on July 27, 2010, 10:35AM
Well, it's kinda memorable, as he was alive for quite some time (I believe Marvel will revive him someway, as they done stuff like that before). You know, that fact that Daredevil has become the leader of the Hand (and wears a new black outfit) and killed Bullseye, by first breaking his arms than stabbing him on the chest with a sai, makes me feel, that comics become darker and darker, as time goes. I mean, at the start, everything was so colourful and more cliché like (something I like in comics). You know, evil comes and do bad things, heroes come and in the end, stop them. But nowadays, heroes and villians just die. Many, who we have thought, would live forever, has died (some of them has been revived, and some of them haven't been). So, everyone can see, that comics, like everything else, changes over time.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on July 27, 2010, 11:32AM
Okay guys, i just got around googling on how many times jeannie died

First you guys are gonna guess



...Done? She died 14 freaking times. I believe it was from a couple o months back, so she probally died more but still. :P Just thought i share it with you guys
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: LX - Rampage on July 27, 2010, 12:36PM
For me, Jean's death is like this:
- Jean Grey died, again.
- Oh, really? Can you pass the ketchup to me?
:D

I mean, really. Whenever she dies, she will live again. Someone should create a funny comic, where she dies on every page and is being revived on the next page :D You know, with cartoonish humour, in mini Marvel style drawing :D
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 27, 2010, 07:39PM
It depends on how you count deaths. If you mean her longtime deaths then she has had two. Her death by Xorn and latest Endsong death.

If you mean deaths like I-don't-care-if-the-character-returns-in-the-next-issue-it-still-counts-as-a-death then she has had several.

Her death in UXM 281 (although her mind survived,  body did not).
Death in Planet X by Wolverine
Death by Xorn
Deaths by Wolverine in Endsong
Death in iceberg (she may not have died though, but most likely did)
Final Endsong death.

You may or may not count her AOA death because for a time the 616 universe became the AOA until the X-Men changed time. You also may not count her death by Thanos where he erases many heroes for a second or somewhat.

Truthfully the Endsong writer and Morrison are the ones who did this to her. She never became like this before.
Also the Phoenix and DP Saga deaths do not count as it wasn't Jean although the Phoenix had a portion of Jean's psyche in it's body. Now Jean and the Phoenix are the same person but that only means Jean has those memories, she still didn't actually truly experience it.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on July 28, 2010, 03:06AM
She died actually more times in other series,

then you count 23, Including her death in X2 - X3, her death in the first episode of Wolvie and the X-guys etc.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 28, 2010, 09:40AM
I'm counting deaths in comics. And she never died in WATXM and she never died in X2. She kept herself alive using her powers. She has died only once in the Animated Series and never in Evolution.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on July 29, 2010, 03:57AM
Wolverine and the X-men episode 1 : Jean gets blown up, she comes back the next episode but this is enough to pressume her death

X-2 : Jean died by an avalanche, dude, that was IMPOSSIBLE to survive, jean focused only on the X-jet making her cool of for a bit (get it XD?)
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 29, 2010, 09:47AM
We assume she is dead but she actually is not so it doesn't count because it is not a real death.

In X2 we are never told she died and then resurrected herself. I imagine that would have been said because that would be a big thing about her powers. I think Xavier said that she used her powers to emerse herself in a psychic cocoon to protect herself but I don't exactly remember. And her powers levels were almost unlimited so she could easily have saved herself at the last minute or maybe even within the water. Not everything has to be on screen. This would also not count then because she never did die, only it was assumed she died.

Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on July 29, 2010, 12:02PM
Honestly, Xavier couldnt feel her anymore, and nothing of that was being said. You can honestly just admit it was a ''dead'', even Jean herself (the actress) told she was actually dead

And it counts as being real dead, just because she returns next episode doesnt mean she was still alive (ask the other 15 deaths, they sure know)
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 29, 2010, 01:04PM
When did the actress say that. And the movie proved Jean was a more powerful telepath so she could have been psychically shielded. But I will give you this one as a dead because it could have been.

The show I will not give you because she never did die. She was found at a hospital without her memory. It never said she died and we don't even know if she has the power in the show to resurrect.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Midnightphoenix on July 29, 2010, 01:33PM
I miss Jean, and hope she really returns. I get there is Hope Summers now but I wont the real Jea, but liek jean grey not phoenix they just need her to be a regular X man. It also sucks the wolverine and the X-men was cancelled because I was so happy jean finally became an X-Men and then they do this!
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: LX - Rampage on July 29, 2010, 10:25PM
So, this thread turned into a "Jean Fan Club"? :D Come on, as much as some people don't like Wolverine everywhere, some people don't like about reading/hearing about Jean every time :D I mean, lets just talk about some other dead. For example, I totally miss Captain Marvel, as he could have been cool in the comics, which they do nowadays.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 30, 2010, 07:49AM
Yeah in fact in my earlier post I was going to say that this isn't a Jean's Death topic. But we are allowed to talk about her on this thread or at least her deaths.
Anyway I'm surpised that the original Captain Marvel isn't back. I guess because he has so many replacements.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: El Maiz on July 31, 2010, 05:36AM
Most memorable death for me... Cap. HE FINALLY DIED!  I hate Captain America.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Midnightphoenix on July 31, 2010, 08:29AM
Wow he is really dead, I never liked him lol.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on July 31, 2010, 07:23PM
Didn't his death turn out to be fake. Because he is back now.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: whiteking on July 31, 2010, 07:34PM
You are right he's alive.
Mmmm the most memorable deaths to me:

1.- Jean's first death. The rest are just bad jokes.
2.- Psylocke.
3.- Stampford kids.
4.- De-powered x-kids.
5.- Nightcrawler.

Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Midnightphoenix on July 31, 2010, 07:47PM
They just need to stop killing people off because sooner or later they will be back.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: mj fan on August 01, 2010, 02:11PM
QuoteThey just need to stop killing people off because sooner or later they will be back.
especially jean....  :( 
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Midnightphoenix on August 01, 2010, 02:55PM
I know what is up with all the killing!
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: El Maiz on August 02, 2010, 06:06AM
Crap he lives.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on August 05, 2010, 01:42PM
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on July 29, 2010, 01:04PM
When did the actress say that. And the movie proved Jean was a more powerful telepath so she could have been psychically shielded. But I will give you this one as a dead because it could have been.

The show I will not give you because she never did die. She was found at a hospital without her memory. It never said she died and we don't even know if she has the power in the show to resurrect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE91ffRGAZ0

''yeah i was dead, but i returned''

Also then have it your way, one less death wont change it for me

Guys CAP was MEMORABLE, after he was like fudge this and gave it all to tony (reaviling his idenity) he got shot, an honourful death, if i may say
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on August 05, 2010, 07:11PM
Like I said I can understand the movie one. But I won't give you the WATXM one because she did not die there.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Jeanfan321 on August 06, 2010, 11:03AM
With mf12345 with this one she never died she was just in a coma or sleeping and had no memory
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on August 07, 2010, 07:57AM
this is the list its coming from :http://www.alternatecover.com/features/how-many-times-has-jean-grey-died/

I forgot to mention a few, so you might wanna check it out :)
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: whiteking on August 07, 2010, 08:11AM
OMG that list is hilarious lol, she had the top ten deaths by herself!! lol
But I have to say that she did not really died on Wolverine and the X-men, I guess that the guy that wrote this, says that she is "dead" because she basically was on more or less 5 ep. of the entire season, most of them on a flashback, and the rest, well she was doing nothing, so in that case, yeah that's a dead character...
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on August 07, 2010, 03:21PM
Now i can really understand why you preffer Emma over Jean XD
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: whiteking on August 07, 2010, 03:47PM
I don't understand how you are able to know why I prefer Emma, based on my comment.
I actually like Jean, it's just that I really hate that she's supposed to be like the fiery goddess or something like that, yet she's killed anyway, I mean if you are going to make her a super powerfull character at least give her a use, because when a writer doesn't know how to handle her, he just kill her. And I hate that, let her be!!!
Emma is not that predictable, she can be good or bad, you will never know, and that's more interesting for me.
That, and most of Jean's fanboys are a little bit passionate about her, but I like her, really, she used to be my favorite x-girl until certain blonde bitch got my heart lol.

But as another user pointed before, enough of Jean, this is not one of her appreciation treads xD
Another memorable death to me was Elektra, I mean Bullseye killed her with her own sai!! How many villains kill you with your own weapon?


Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: LX - Rampage on August 07, 2010, 10:49PM
Well, to make it even, Daredevil killed Bullsy with a sai a little while ago (it's on Marvel Database, dunno if it that comic was already released).
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on August 08, 2010, 03:15AM
Quote from: whiteking on August 07, 2010, 03:47PM
I don't understand how you are able to know why I prefer Emma, based on my comment.
I actually like Jean, it's just that I really hate that she's supposed to be like the fiery goddess or something like that, yet she's killed anyway, I mean if you are going to make her a super powerfull character at least give her a use, because when a writer doesn't know how to handle her, he just kill her. And I hate that, let her be!!!
Emma is not that predictable, she can be good or bad, you will never know, and that's more interesting for me.
That, and most of Jean's fanboys are a little bit passionate about her, but I like her, really, she used to be my favorite x-girl until certain blonde bitch got my heart lol.

But as another user pointed before, enough of Jean, this is not one of her appreciation treads xD
Another memorable death to me was Elektra, I mean Bullseye killed her with her own sai!! How many villains kill you with your own weapon?




(username, avatar,) there are a lots of pics with both the woman, so i assumed you just liked Emma more ;)
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: whiteking on August 08, 2010, 11:08AM
Quote from: Suigetsu on August 07, 2010, 10:49PM
Well, to make it even, Daredevil killed Bullsy with a sai a little while ago (it's on Marvel Database, dunno if it that comic was already released).

Shadowland #1, if I'm right it's already avaliable.

Quote from: tymaca321 on August 08, 2010, 03:15AM
(username, avatar,) there are a lots of pics with both the woman, so i assumed you just liked Emma more ;)

Ohh based on that it's quite obvious who is my favorite lol ^^
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Jeanfan321 on August 08, 2010, 01:56PM
@whiteking yeah I thought is was sad stabbed in the hand and the stomach with her sai.I was suprised elektra can't handle bullseye.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: High5 on September 29, 2010, 10:25AM
I liked Captain Britain's death during Secret invasion. Died stopping a missile. Well, he tried to avert it, failed. Pity when he came back he had an awful sut. I liked hi suit after he stopped being Brittanic.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: LarsAlexandersson on October 07, 2010, 05:52AM
 :ohnoes: Madame Web is dead, killed by Sasha Kravinoff........  :bawling:NOOOOOOOOO!!!!. She was the only one of the bestest instructor of all Spider-Men's.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: tymaca321 on October 07, 2010, 06:33AM
Oh well, she still lives on in shattered dimensions :P
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Nowhere Man on October 07, 2010, 06:43AM
Quote from: Jeanfan321 on August 08, 2010, 01:56PM
yeah I thought is was sad stabbed in the hand and the stomach with her sai.I was suprised elektra can't handle bullseye.

correction: she couldn't handle Bullseye. back than she had only trained with the Hand. nowadays she became one of the most powerful students of the Chaste as well, training with people like Stone and Stick. She has also become much stronger on her Hand knowledge, considering she's led them. I think nowadays she'd win against ol'target-face.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on October 07, 2010, 12:40PM
Psylocke's death in X-Treme X-Men was pretty sad too (just read it). But obvious she would be back.
Title: Re: Most Memorable Deaths
Post by: Sazandra125 on October 28, 2010, 11:03AM
For me the most memorable death was the death of Uncle Ben.  If there was one comic book death that stuck it's this one and it launched the superhero career of  :spiderman: that in and of it self deserves mention.  Also the death of  :punisher_logo:'s family made on of the most relentless and effective vigilantes in Marvel.  Then there's all those people who Nitro killed that started the civil war.