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Title: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Rogue on November 17, 2010, 10:34PM
Personally I have no such character. I will look that you tell.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: fox456 on November 18, 2010, 04:28AM
Wolverine -- he seems so overrated.  I have never understood his popularity.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Rogue on November 18, 2010, 07:59AM
I don't know. He isn't bad.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: 4elementsefww on November 18, 2010, 08:19AM
agree 100% with you fox456.  He is wayyyyy to overrated.  I don't mind his character and personallity but I hate it when things always center around him.  Like how he is always one of the cover characters for games and for movies and such.  Even though x-men like storm, rogue, jean, and cyclops are popular, they aren't the ones "on the cereal box" so to speak.  Granted, though, jean does get a lot of storyline attention, but she isn't always the one in the spot light on games and movies.  For instance with the movie posters for x-men 1, 2, and 3, wolverine is in all three posters, but jean is only in the xmen 1 and 3 posters, also wolverine either is in the front center (in the case with xmen 3 even though the movie had a lot to do with jean, who is like in the very back of the poster), or he has one of the biggest pictures (in the case with the x2 movie).  So yeah that's why I agree with fox456.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: scott summers on November 18, 2010, 11:44AM
totaly agree with you guys.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: LX - Rampage on November 18, 2010, 12:42PM
Jean Grey. Overrated. Started out from a pretty normal character, and now it's just...too much. I prefer her buried.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on November 18, 2010, 02:00PM
I really don't see Jean being to overrated. I honestly don't. Maybe during the Phoenix Saga, yes but of course she will be the center of attention. Just look at the 90s was Jean the main star for every arc? Even for New X-Men was she, because from what I know she wasn't. Even Wolverine wasn't the main star each time for the X-Books (in the 90s time period), but often he tended to get the spotlight during battle stuff.

Wolverine has become overrated due to the fact that he is on every X-Book these days when he really isn't needed, a bunch of other marvel teams, and used in lunchboxes, cereal boxes, toys, books, posters, etc. and of course movies and cartoons. The movies titled X-Men really should have been Wolverine and the X-Men. He's just a cash cow so like Spider-Man, Hulk, Iron Man, etc. people use them a lot.

These days I do think that Wolverine, Cyclops, and Emma are used for everything. Like every X-book, and every page for them, and most of the time they are not needed. What makes it worse is that the last 2 are horribly written these days.

Anyway who do I hate. Fraction's Cyclops and Emma. Worst deciptions of 2 great characters ever imo.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Nowhere Man on November 18, 2010, 02:18PM
I don't think Jean is overrated either. she has her moments in the spotlight, but she's been absent among the x-men for years in more than one occasion. she's not like the immortal and omnipresent wolverine, truth of the matter she dies all the time. people here may think she's overrated, but it's cause in this forum she is. we have a lot of jean fans, disproportional to the reality among x-fans around the world. also, our jean fans are disproportionally obsessive as well :P. every topic ends up being bout her and there are several mods for her. we have a lot of deadpool fans as well, but you don't see that happening.

well, there are a couple of characters I don't like. Wolverine is a fine character, but the constant hype about him is extremely annoying indeed. I dislike Bishop and Cable, just cause these hugely pumped up guys with even huger guns is just so 90's. I dislike those characters that are spin-off of characters that already have way too many spin-offs, like Rulk, A-Bomb, the Jean look-a-likes, X-23, Romulus, Jack Flag, Free Spirit, Araña and so on. I also dislike characters that don't really have a purpose or have unoriginal overused powers, like Match.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on November 18, 2010, 02:25PM
One thing about Jean that is overrated though is her constant deaths and resurrections.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: whiteking on November 18, 2010, 03:21PM
I also don't think that Jean is overrated as a character, the thing is that she has one of the most... passionate fanbase (to say the least), some of them are polite and nice but almost all are insanely obsessed with her and want her to be on everything. That's why many people think she's overrated, because other than that she seems normal (and kind of "meh" sometimes) for me, except Morrison's Jean who in my opinion is the best characterization of her (until the Phoenix merged with her again).

I don't hate any X-Character, but I find really anoying some of them like Wolverine (who is on everything) or Bishop.
@Marvelfan12345. I would never call characterization to what Fraction has done to Cyclops and Emma Frost, luckily for me "Astonishing X-men" and many other comics where both appear as "guest stars" always remind me why I love these 2.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Jeanfan321 on November 18, 2010, 03:57PM
It would be Blob he just a big fat donkey and he is stupid but if were talking about Like Good guys X-men then it would be no one. I love all the X-men
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Rogue on November 19, 2010, 04:17AM
Certainly, this question is a matter of taste of each of us. About Jean, I find it more than the normal character. Simply she is very popular, and such people are or favourites of all, or on the contrary.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Kano9 on November 20, 2010, 09:37PM
Wolverine is definitely overrated in films and cartoon/animation but i was fine with him in the earlier comics. I actually hate duplicate characters! 4 example, why do we need Bishop or Shard when there's Cyke & Maddie's son Cable (who has a better story arc imo). Why do we need X-23 when we have Logan and Deathstrike or Zealot if we already had Avalanche & Rictor (who has simular powers). The attension that was given to these duplicate characters could have been used to promote the already existing ones... what a waste imo.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Zillo on November 21, 2010, 09:11AM
1 question: Why you think, he is overrated? Yes, he is very strong, but not overrated.
I hate Pyro. He is so arogant and stupid...
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Sazandra125 on November 21, 2010, 05:14PM
I was fine with wolverine in the comics and shows until everything started revolving around him.  Heck the x-men films were called the wolverine movies by some people.  And look at the recent x-men cartoon Wolverine and the X-men, if you notice the title shot Wolvie is front and center and his name is twice as big as the X-men.  It's like the shnkt bub and his backup singers show.  Plus he appears on so many non x-men games it's silly.  Spider-man web of shadows had spidey (main character) venom (main villian) and wolverine on the cover.  These days the guy hogs the spotlight more than the Uchihas from Naruto.   Definitley overrated and overused.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: fox456 on November 21, 2010, 05:36PM
Quote from: Sazandra125 on November 21, 2010, 05:14PM
I was fine with wolverine in the comics and shows until everything started revolving around him.  Heck the x-men films were called the wolverine movies by some people.  And look at the recent x-men cartoon Wolverine and the X-men, if you notice the title shot Wolvie is front and center and his name is twice as big as the X-men.  It's like the shnkt bub and his backup singers show.  Plus he appears on so many non x-men games it's silly.  Spider-man web of shadows had spidey (main character) venom (main villian) and wolverine on the cover.  These days the guy hogs the spotlight more than the Uchihas from Naruto.   Definitley overrated and overused.

I agree 100%.  :D
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Nowhere Man on November 21, 2010, 07:34PM
Wolverine, the Beyoncé of the X-Verse LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aASCZgbJxC8
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Jeanfan321 on November 21, 2010, 08:22PM
Quote from: Nowhere Man on November 21, 2010, 07:34PM
Wolverine, the Beyoncé of the X-Verse LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aASCZgbJxC8
OMG that's so true about Destiny Child haha it relates to wolverine stealing the spotlight
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: mccordlarsen on November 21, 2010, 08:48PM
Chamber, Beak, and the fish kid from from just around the turn of the century. 3 characters that have no purpose in my opinion. Their powers aren't even interesting.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on November 30, 2010, 05:18PM
Wolverine is very overrated! The comics make him seem like he was the original X-Man but he wasnt and more people deserve more attention like Storm, Iceman, Angel, Etc
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: scott summers on November 30, 2010, 05:28PM
wolvie. The spotlights he gets is not necessary.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Rogue on November 30, 2010, 10:18PM
Quotewolvie. The spotlights he gets is not necessary.

I agree. Really he gets too much attention. If he existed as the character separate of X-men, I think, it would be much better. Anybody would disturb to nobody. Also wouldn't be the Universe center.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Quentin Hex on December 04, 2010, 12:05AM
i actually have more problems with wolverine's son XP i mean daken is just a silly plot device in an attempt to milk the consumer for even more money and he is really just a knock off of wolverine without the awesomeness and he has an even worse haircut to boot. i mean X-23 was pretty, and much more unique than mr daken XP. plus his tattoo makes no sense with the healing factor...

did i mention he has stupid hair?
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: scott summers on December 04, 2010, 06:36AM
I agree, I like wolvie a little but I can't stand daken.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Rogue on December 05, 2010, 08:35AM
Yes, And In my opinion Daken is superfly.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on December 05, 2010, 09:32AM
Daken really bugs me too. We already had X-23, and he hasn't really done anything important. But then half of marvel's characters haven't.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: x-boy on December 28, 2010, 10:22AM
I don't hate any X-Character! All of them are just great!!!....mmmm... Maybe Emma Frost, sometimes I really don't know what think about her, sometimes looks like she is not honest and is still a villian, but sometimes I really feel like she is one of the X-Men, but actually that fact makes her so interesting, so... I don't hate any X-character again!!!
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: kiss_lamia on January 29, 2011, 07:50PM
hmmm this is hard but id have to go with early Jean Grey! She used to be so annoying and moany! loved her when she was Phoenix and Dark Phoenix then when she died and maddy was born! she should have stayed dead! lol she came back a derailed maddy's character which was highly emotional for me, since she was my fave! but after inferno she was ok! but maddy still beats her ass!! lol
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: SuperNatural-Witch on January 29, 2011, 11:52PM
Rogue; I got alot of love for her but in the beginning she was always crying & moaning about touching people; Get over yourself there people like Beast who can't even be seen in public without people running around shouting mutant!!!
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Scabbia on January 30, 2011, 05:35AM
^ Im so upset now. lmao jk

I love the X-Men, but like most people, I agree with Wolverine being overrated. If you notice in the cartoons, there are more episodes that are based on his past or what he's going through. Like noone knows... He's like the never-ending soap opera. lol. And in the movies, I'm sorry, but I hate Storm. She went from being so mature and quiet, to bein a rude, stuck up...you know what. That annoyed me. But the one chracter I REALLY hate, is MOJO! He's so disgusting...and I hate watching him on the cartoons...he freaks me out. lol.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Jerkman on January 30, 2011, 11:05PM
Quote from: RogueDW331 on January 30, 2011, 05:35AM
^ Im so upset now. lmao jk

I love the X-Men, but like most people, I agree with Wolverine being overrated. If you notice in the cartoons, there are more episodes that are based on his past or what he's going through. Like noone knows... He's like the never-ending soap opera. lol. And in the movies, I'm sorry, but I hate Storm. She went from being so mature and quiet, to bein a rude, stuck up...you know what. That annoyed me. But the one chracter I REALLY hate, is MOJO! He's so disgusting...and I hate watching him on the cartoons...he freaks me out. lol.

I hate Mojo too, he disgusts me (and he recently returned in Astonishing Spider-man/Wolverine). And i hate Daken, he disgusts me too, almost the same like Mojo
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: BLaw on February 05, 2011, 02:43PM
Jean. Stay dead.
The reason why I don't hate wolverine is because he lived for ages and his "past" can be filled with whatever.

Modok. The f*** is that. A flying big fat head with shrimpy arms and legs.
Sugarman. How does he fit in with superhero stuff? Same with Mojo.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Rogue on February 08, 2011, 10:25PM
Many people don't love Jean. I think that it because of a subject line, her death and etc, but not because of Jean as character. Matbe I am mistaken. But personally I love her.
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on February 09, 2011, 01:36PM
Quote from: Rogue on February 08, 2011, 10:25PM
Many people don't love Jean. I think that it because of a subject line, her death and etc, but not because of Jean as character. Matbe I am mistaken. But personally I love her.

Yeah resurrection and deaths are a huge factor in why many people dislike her. Another is that people consider Jean a goody-goody although she is really not. (well not always)
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: Rogue on February 09, 2011, 10:58PM
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on February 09, 2011, 01:36PM
Yeah resurrection and deaths are a huge factor in why many people dislike her. Another is that people consider Jean a goody-goody although she is really not. (well not always)

Yeah you're right!
Title: Re: The character whom you hate and why (x-men)
Post by: bobbyraw on March 02, 2011, 09:13PM
I'm gonna give this topic a bit of a bump because it looks like its dying, but it really did entertain me.

I didn't really like Psylocke after the whole Crimson Dawn thing. Her personality kind of changed a bit and I didn't quite like it (and her costume around 2000 sucked).

Hate Professor X  :xavier: !!!!!! There were a couple of periods where I wish someone had gutted the guy (or at least punched his head in) - usually the times when he's driving them super hard in the danger room and yelling at them for minor mistakes. I hated his guts during that period (2000) just before they found out that wolverine was a fake and the real Wolverine had been turned into Death.