Well, some of the members maybe wanna kill me with this thread, but as Marvel Mods is a place that we have a lot of lesbians, bi and gay members, I've decided to creat this topic so we can talk about everything related to this subject. News, laws, thoughts or whatever you want to share with the other members, how do you feel about being gay, and this stuff. Remeber that we will always be respectful with people and its not allowed to post pornography or relateds. So, that's it. Raise your glass for fun and get free, get out of the closet!!! lol :whistle: Everyone is welcome! :)
i'm not gay myself, but more power to you who are. I'm actually one of the leaders of the pride alliance (formerly called the gay/straight alliance). so i guess namaste to all of you ^^
Great Idea!
Well, as you may know or not, I'm proudly a gay guy.
I'm happy, my life is great and my sexuality has never caused me troubles with anyone. Yes there's still a lot of people who believes that this is wrong or something like that, but that wont stop me, the world is still spinning around and the sun shines for eveyone so, what I can say to you, gay or not, is be happy without take care of that others think about you :)
as for that choice thing, what I wanted to say was that it's definitely not a choice. I mean, if someones aunt used to be with a guy and is now with a girl she didn't decide to become gay. either she only admited being gay far in life or she's bisexual, and that's what gives her the choice to be with a man or a woman. people who are genuinely gay simply don't feel attracted to the opposite sex. just like straight guys don't go around thinking "hey, I think I'm gonna sleep with a man today.....nah, I choose not to." It just doesn't work that way.
I don't have a problem with people, who like the same sex or both, but why make a thread for them? I mean, this is like alienating (is this how it is spelt?) them away from everyone. As for myself, a proud person, who is proud of the fact, that he believes, that everybody is equal, I don't like the idea of the thread. I mean, because someone is homosexual or bisexual, it does not change them from the fact, that they are humans as I am or others. So, it's like creating a thread for boys and a thread for girls. A thread for Jean Grey fans and a thread for some other very popular character. But enough of this. Apart from what I already wrote down, I want to say, that I am very happy, that there are people, who openly accepts themselves and others for who they are. It's a great thing! If everyone would be like this, the whole world would be entirely else.
I believe the point was to make a conversation happen in the right place (;; In case you haven't noticed, there was a lot of discussion about "choosing" gayness in some topic, I can't remember which one, but it was waay off-topic. I can see your point about it alienating gays from normal people, but sometimes, certain matters are good to be discussed about. All the fuss about gays is what makes them so different. If people reacted normally on them, in the same way they act for straights, gays would of course be nothing to discuss about.
I myself am bi and proud of it, even though I haven't told anyone but my two best friends. ((: Unfortunately the place I live in, isn't really acceptive, so I'm keeping it quiet for as long as possible :P Or until I move to another city/country etc. (I know big dreams about moving to another country but what can I say.... dream on :))
I totally agree with Nowhere Man. Sexuality is not a choice! You cannot choose to become gay or straight or bi... I should know, since a couple weeks ago I had a feeling I wouldn't want to be bi anymore. I tried to change myself, but it wasn't possible. And believe me, I did a lot of thinking that time. Fortunately that thinking was good for me, since now I'm proud of what I am, even though I'm not what I am publically :P
It's good to read, that you accept and like yourself this way. Accepting ourselves and other people are very important. Even though, I'm not the type, who accepts himself too much :D Oh, BTW, as for myself, I'm straight, but I never really had a problem with homo- or heterosexual people
ThePhoenix wrote exactly what I meant this thread for. It is just to share anything related in order to avoid spam in other topics and I thought that it would be nice to have a topic to discuss about it, not to separete gay members from straight ones, far from that! From my point of view only who is gay knows that its not a choice, only being one to know it.
Well, I have to argue with that. Even a straight guy like me knows, that this is not a choice, but a feeling, which cannot be altered. How many times I have wished, that I would turn 100% unable, to love other people in a romantic way, but it turned out, that I'm something of a romantic loser, so that's that :D
Quote from: ThePhoenix on January 28, 2011, 12:56PMI totally agree with Nowhere Man. Sexuality is not a choice! You cannot choose to become gay or straight or bi... I should know, since a couple weeks ago I had a feeling I wouldn't want to be bi anymore. I tried to change myself, but it wasn't possible.
I'm sorry, but that's total BS. Gave it a whole few weeks, did you? You think that's all a paradigm shift takes? I've worked with people who chose to make major changes in their life, and a few weeks will never cut it. A few weeks says "You know what? This is hard, I think I'll do the easy thing."
Nope, I absolutely don't think you're "programmed" to be straight, bi or gay. It's a choice, just like everything else in life. As far as my opinion past that point I have extremely strong feelings towards monogamous man-woman relationships, but out of civility I won't go there.
Incidentally though intentions are good here this topic will end up going south. That's why on most forums I moderate or am an admin on politics, religion and sexuality are forbidden topics, as folks feel too strongly one way or the other.
Well, for myself, I already said, that I think, that accepting ourselves and others are very important, so if it goes like this, this topic won't be much of a problem. Of course, if random people, who just registered would write in offending stuff, well, lets just say, that it could happen. But sexuality nowadays is like racism was many years ago. Although, there are still many racist people, but the majority accepts others. Lets hope sexuality will be accepted a lot more in the future.
Quote from: Teancum on January 28, 2011, 02:32PM
I'm sorry, but that's total BS. Gave it a whole few weeks, did you? You think that's all a paradigm shift takes? I've worked with people who chose to make major changes in their life, and a few weeks will never cut it. A few weeks says "You know what? This is hard, I think I'll do the easy thing."
I'm a teenager, what did you expect? :P My mood changes two million times a day, so I pretty much changed my opinion about that change during those weeks (: (PS. I feel like a total noob, but what is BS?)
Quote from: Teancum on January 28, 2011, 02:32PM
Nope, I absolutely don't think you're "programmed" to be straight, bi or gay. It's a choice, just like everything else in life.
Cancer? Dying? Poverty? Famine? Yes I'm exaggerating here, but it's kind of the same? You can't choose cancer! Who would? Cancer chooses you. Also, dying is something we all have to do, and that isn't up to our choices, how it happens. Though our choices might affect it, but we can't control it. Many people are born poor, some people become poor against their will. If that was a choice would anyone be poor? The same goes with famine. If we really could choose everything in life, then nothing bad would ever happen.
Quote from: Teancum on January 28, 2011, 02:32PM
Incidentally though intentions are good here this topic will end up going south. That's why on most forums I moderate or am an admin on politics, religion and sexuality are forbidden topics, as folks feel too strongly one way or the other.
Just because that is the situation in most forums you participate in, doesn't mean this topic couldn't work here (: I'm sure the moderators are more than ready to stay whatchful on this topic and delete the posts that don't fit. Also, most forums I'm in, do have politics, religion and sexuality topics, and they work better than well (:
Quote from: Teancum on January 28, 2011, 02:32PM
I'm sorry, but that's total BS. Gave it a whole few weeks, did you? You think that's all a paradigm shift takes? I've worked with people who chose to make major changes in their life, and a few weeks will never cut it. A few weeks says "You know what? This is hard, I think I'll do the easy thing."
Nope, I absolutely don't think you're "programmed" to be straight, bi or gay. It's a choice, just like everything else in life. As far as my opinion past that point I have extremely strong feelings towards monogamous man-woman relationships, but out of civility I won't go there.
Incidentally though intentions are good here this topic will end up going south. That's why on most forums I moderate or am an admin on politics, religion and sexuality are forbidden topics, as folks feel too
strongly one way or the other.
Thank you! I am glad I am not the only one to think this, I am sure it's a choice! Like he said you arent made that way.... people make the disscusion to be gay
Btw ThePhoenix, BS Means Bull Sh*t :P
I am left handed, you think I choose to be? Lol, there is no argument here we are what we are and (me being gay) am happy with how I am. I know there is no way to change everyone opinions and I'm not trying to, but what makes you think I choose to be gay in the first place? What I don't wanna deal with kids or something? lol....
Yes maybe you do, but for real, see you make it seem like you cant like a girl, it is possible, and thats horrible to say you would preffer to be normal, if you want to like a girl then you can, seriously! Your making it seem that there is no option to like a girl, I am sorry, but this is a topic that I am very opinionative about, and I no for a fact its a choice!
Sorry big boss Teancum, but I do not agree with you this time. It's not a choice.
And all the things that I wanted to say are in this question that edward posted:
What makes you think that I choose to be gay at the first place?
I'm not rejecting the fact that I'm gay (as I said, i'm very proud of what I am), but I know that my life (especially when I was a kid) would have been easier if I were a straight guy, because we still live in a world where many people has the idea that what they believe is the correct way to live and if other people is different then that person is wrong or doesn't know what he's doing , so why I choose being gay in this world then? I'm a masochistic or something?
Well I never choose it, that's me.
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on January 28, 2011, 04:25PM
Yes maybe you do, but for real, see you make it seem like you cant like a girl, it is possible, and thats horrible to say you would preffer to be normal, if you want to like a girl then you can, seriously!
No we can't and what I'm going to say is without trying to be rude or something, but the whole idea of just trying to be with a girl (in a romantic/sexual way) it's disgusting to me (probably you feel the same about be with another guy, don't you?)
I love women, my best friends are girls, but I can't think on them on another view than just be friends, I can't really.
As marvel watcher and as I posted before, I think that this is a great idea just because here we can discuss about it without just posting in random topics and stay off topic. And not only about this, we can also talk about other things as well :)
Oh and dont' worry people, this wont become a topic of hurtful comments or something, I trust that we are smart people that knows how to behave and that if someone has an opinion, that person will do it in a respectful way towards the opinion from other people. And if that's not the case, I'll do my work as a moderator as I've done on other topics before ;)
Actually no, I dont think it would be werid to be with a guy at all, thats why I think it is a choice, and I totally agree, that this is an awesome topic for everyone to express them selves about their sexuality
I'm a little mixed on the topic as I have a similar situation but not as much with liking people but as how I act. Anyone who wouldn't know I am a boy would probably assume I am a girl. When I was little I wasn't the typical boy playing in the mud, racing cars, obsessed with explosions, etc. I was quiet, sensitive, passive, and I honestly loved the Disney Princessess. They were my obsession and each day I would crave for their toys, dolls, movies, books, etc. My sister has a dollhouse now and I often have temptations to play with it (but my parents would frown upon it and my sister has trashed it to the point of no return)
My whole life I've always seemed to prefer the female over the male, likely why my fav characters in comics, books, movies, etc. have always been women. The few men who I do enjoy are probably because they don't act like alpha males at all (like Iceman).
Even my voice, which is deep, I keep much higher. I just am not comfortable with a deep voice and it isn't for me while I am perfectly fine with my higher voice. In my head I hear a girl's voice or at least a higher voice than the average adult male. Maybe it could just have to do with wanting to still feel like a child but I'm sure it also has to do with some feminine instincts within me. Medically I am the average male, but I don't really feel like a guy as much as a girl. Even some people who I could be really close with are women and not men who I don't feel as comfortable around. If this was possible, I would say that I was born as a boy but with a girl's mind because that is how I feel. Maybe I have more female hormones than a male's although my doctors have never noticed anything peculiar about me and be whom they want to be.
I have often tried to be a guy and fit in, but I just can't. Most of the time trying to act like a guy disgusts me so much that I just refuse it. Ever since I was little I knew I was a boy but acted more like a girl. I never wondered why, it was just who I am and felt natural.
Imagine an actress having to play a man for 13 years of her life. You get sick of it after a while especially because of how much easier life would be. I wish I was born as a girl because I think my life would be easier, I'd be happier, and the people around me would also be happier. So I understand how gay, lesbians, etc. feel because I have a similar situation if not harder imo. and I feel as though they should have the right to love whom they please.
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on January 28, 2011, 05:19PM
I'm a little mixed on the topic as I have a similar situation but not as much with liking people but as how I act. Anyone who wouldn't know I am a boy would probably assume I am a girl. When I was little I wasn't the typical boy playing in the mud, racing cars, obsessed with explosions, etc. I was quiet, sensitive, passive, and I honestly loved the Disney Princessess. They were my obsession and each day I would crave for their toys, dolls, movies, books, etc. My sister has a dollhouse now and I often have temptations to play with it (but my parents would frown upon it and my sister has trashed it to the point of no return)
My whole life I've always seemed to prefer the female over the male, likely why my fav characters in comics, books, movies, etc. have always been women. The few men who I do enjoy are probably because they don't act like alpha males at all (like Iceman).
I was just like that! Disney Princess, mainly Ariel, they were my girls, and my favorites are always girls
Its nice to know that I'm not the only one like this and not a freak lol.
I think I have something with red heads, thats what my mom says, Ariel, Jean, I have a feeling someone else was in there :/ cant think of it :P Rosemon if you count her rose head hair
Quote from: Teancum on January 28, 2011, 02:32PM
Incidentally though intentions are good here this topic will end up going south. That's why on most forums I moderate or am an admin on politics, religion and sexuality are forbidden topics, as folks feel too strongly one way or the other.
No offense but this thread was going pretty good and positive until you made your comments about it being a choice and your "strong feelings towards monogamous man-woman relationships".
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It would be awesome if people just let others have their threads and let them communicate with each other and support each other, but not everyone will want to play nice and decide it's their duty to make others feel bad about the way they are.
Let the gays have the thread they want to have, is there really a reason to call them out on their life styles? What will you accomplish by insulting them or questioning them? This is suppose to be a thread for them, not a thread for your feelings about homosexuality. If there was a thread for Christians I wouldn't go in there and tell them my negative feelings towards it, I would just let them have their thread.
Let's keep it civil and let people have their thread.
(btw Teancum and others the above statements should not be thought of as going together, they are two different thoughts)
I'm not sure why a person is attracted to one sex or another. At this point, I think that a person's sexual orientation is genetic (attributed to the hormones as someone mentioned) or is environmental (having something to do with experiences that happen in childhood) or is a combination of genetics and environment.
The feeling we have when we are attracted to someone is not a choice. Acting on the feeling is the choice. Straight or gay, we all have the choice of whether we want to date that person we think is attractive.
Quote from: ThePhoenix on January 28, 2011, 03:28PM(PS. I feel like a total noob, but what is BS?)
It means bullshit. which means he doesn't believe that.
I don't think we have to worry about this thread going south no matter how opinionated we all are. We can all be civil and respect the fact that people think differently as long as we back our opinions with facts and not hatred we'll be fine.
What I think is weird is people thinking they know what it is to be gay more than gay people themselves. Isn't that a little arrogant?
If it were a choice why is it that even in countries where gay people are perceived as the devil, and there's even death penalty for that, people would still be gay? for the glamour? LOL
I mean, when do straight guys consciously make the choice to be straight? as far as I know it happens naturally. it's not like when you were 12 you started thinking "Well, time to make the decision. Do I wanna be straight or do I wanna be gay, persecuted and discriminated?".
and, as far as science goes, the latest studies speculate that the gene that makes a woman extremely fertile is the same that makes her male children be gay. same thing for fertile men and gay female children. It's like the you're-gonna-be-attracted-to-men-gene. In my personal experience I know of several gay men who have maternal gay uncles, which backs this theory.
yeah, you can still believe it's a choice, but the oldest history in the book is gay men marrying women and spending the rest of their lives miserable. plus, they're also making the women miserable, cause I'm pretty sure straight women want to be with guys who are attracted to them. It's not about choosing who you're gonna date and have relashionships with, cause we can all be self denying and choose to be with someone we know is not right for us. It's about choosing to be happy and truthful to yourself and the rest of the world. It's about believing that the fact that you're attracted to the same gender is not character denifing flaw. And it's not! I mean, if it's between consenting adults and they're not hurting anyone, why is it a bad thing? Why can't people just live and let live and let other people try to be happy to the best of their abilities? Why is it your business who other people sleep with after all?
EDIT: oh, and what is it about Ariel? I was a huge fan of hers when I was a kid too. Had coloring books, the movie soundtrack, Ariel themed crayola crayons and even a doll. Go figure...
QuoteWhat I think is weird is people thinking they know what it is to be gay more than gay people themselves. Isn't that a little arrogant?
i was thinking the same thing XD
i personally can't speak for the gay experience, just my own. i probably have one of the most confusing sexual identities i know of. i'm far too masculine to be a feminine man, but too feminine to be a masculine guy. i self identify as a heterosexual male, but i'm still not really "repulsed" by men, so to speak. i mean there isn't really all that much attraction, but still there's not a lack of attraction. if that makes any sense. i've held some pretty engaging conversations with my female friends about how hot some tv stars are XD. there's actually a fair amount of people who have thought or think that i am gay. which isn't really a bad thing it's just kind of confusing :P
i'm not sure if that made any sense or is even on topic but i wanted to get that out and this seemed like a good place for it haha
I know just what you mean. I'm nowhere near normal, even if you do consider being gay normal. I tend to think of myself as being gay but I'm more assexual than anything else. The fact that I'm gay means more that instead on abstaining from women I'm abstaining from men. Either way I'm alone so, what's the difference? But I don't fit any gay stereotype. I don't like fashion at all, I don't like disco music or lady gaga or anything of the sort (except madonna, but hey, it's madonna). Being gay is such a small part of me that it's barely there. Having nerdy tastes (comics, sci-fi and so on), being a political and philosophical idealist and my religious faith defines me a lot more that being gay. The result is that I end up not really fitting in any group. I'm too gay to hang out with straight guys, too straight to hang out with gay guys, too nerd to hang around regular people, have too much common sense to hang around nerds. So, I'm not really accepted anywhere. My very few (2) friends are these freaks like me.
I'm probably asexual at least for now because I don't really get attracted to men or women. Like anyone I know who is pretty or hot and who is not but I don't really feel attracted to them. BTW Ariel was my fav Disney Princess too. I moved on from her when I grew up but I begged my mom to let me buy the DVD of the Little Mermaid when it came out. I ended up being hooked to her again for a while.
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on January 29, 2011, 09:02AM
I'm probably asexual at least for now because I don't really get attracted to men or women. Like anyone I know who is pretty or hot and who is not but I don't really feel attracted to them. BTW Ariel was my fav Disney Princess too. I moved on from her when I grew up but I begged my mom to let me buy the DVD of the Little Mermaid when it came out. I ended up being hooked to her again for a while.
Ha ha Ariel rules! We need a thred, just for her XD, I own the Dvd, 2 different VHS's, I had millions of the dolls, 2 pillows, I had a video game XD
Quote from: Toothless on January 29, 2011, 01:30PM
Nowhere man - How did your parents left yu buy ariel's doll. I would love to have one but my father didn't let me buy it neither the dvd. I bought it secretly
when I was 8 I went to Disneyworld and that was my highest point in The Little Mermaid fanboyism. I saw a doll, asked my parents and they bought it. I grew up with two older sisters and was always alone as a child. Maybe they just guessed that, at least with a doll, I'd be able to play with my sisters.
and I do have the DVD as well, but that I bought for myself. my parents would never have a problem with that. I have dozens of cartoon DVDs. I've always loved cartoons as a child and never stopped loving them till this very day.You'll notice that if you read my thread called "NM's nostalgia corner"
this thread is touching
I AM GAY ;D I feel weird telling it in here .... I'm gay only in private, in public I'm so normal as I should be
I'm kind of a lover. I can feel the emotions stronger. I felt attracted to men, in a sexual way, about a few years ago...
About women, I don't feel sexual attracted to them, but I have female best friends, I am able to be a women's best friend, like a brother or so...
Anyway, I think also the zodiac says some things about a person, so I'm Libra. I'm a Libra gay :)
About people who knows that... I am not ready for that. Only some gay dear friends know that ... I'm just afraid about negative things could happen if people would know about me.
I always hope that tomorrow will be a better day :)
But... I'm happy as I am, I have many skills as a gay man ... :P hehe
I'm Officially gay have been probably since 4! but didn't realise it was called gay untill at least 10, and now a ragging homo thats 26 and loves marvel comics and games still!! lol as you can guess Maddy and Selene are my faves so loved maddy's mod and now waiting on Selene Woop!! party when that she gets released lol :D!!
Wow. I haven't been on in awhile (working on getting things back on my computers) and I come across this. I'm actually very impressed how everyone is so mature about their own opinions. (No wonder I keep coming back to this site lol) As I have mentioned before on another thread, I'm gay as well, actually engaged to someone and have our own little family. He's 28 I'm bout to be 25. We have a dog, who just had puppies (SO CUTE!) and were VERY happy. From my experience, it's very rough growing up as a gay individual, but once you become an adult and start actually living, it's soooo much easier. My Mother was bi for the longest time. And it was a choice for her, cause in her opinion, it didn't matter what gender she was with, just the person. In my outlook, I've been attracted to men for as long as I can remember, and I have been attracted to women, but their not AS attractive to me as men are. That's mostly because with men, I feel more comfortable and safe...I guess you could say... and with women, I can relate too much with and that just makes me want to be friends, nothing more. As a kid, I was into Little Mermaid too lol, still am. I even have a Little Mermaid Trash can right here next to me in our office lol. I've always been interested in the girls in cartoons, comics and games. Like Rogue, Ariel, Claire Redfield (Resident Evil), Tifa (Final Fantasy)... Heck that list could go on for days. lol. But when I was younger, My Father bought me the Ariel and Eric dolls, even though he told me when I was 8 he would dissown me if I ended up gay. Which he tried to for like 2 years but it didn't work thanks to his new wife. lol. I don't have a problem with the friends department cause once people get to know me, they realize that I have a rare personality. I don't care who you are or what you do, just don't disrespect me or my family. lol. Now as an adult, I just get into my X-Men comics, videogames, and art. My step-dad is a tattoo artist and he's constantly asking me for advice on his work or wanting to introduce me to his friends at work or what have you. Oh yeah, and my fiance... even though he's annoyed that I have all my X-Men stuff in the office, he loves the fact that I call him my Gambit. I have this thing bout naming the people I care about most after certain X-Men. My Mom and step-Dad are Jean and Cyclops. My mom even tattooed Phoenix on her leg, while I have Rogue on my arm lol. (Mom's got the hair...lol.)
impressive things I read in here :)
Quote from: Toothless on January 29, 2011, 02:34PM
Ariel has a video game?? I need to get it!!!!
Oh yeah! She has a lot, She has some for sega and stuff, the one I had was for ps1, then there are ones for PC and dont forget Kingdom hearts :P This is the one I had http://www.amazon.com/Disneys-Little-Mermaid-II/dp/B00004WKFJ/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401606&sr=1-5 then there are these http://www.amazon.com/Disneys-Little-Mermaid-Underseas-Nintendo-DS/dp/B000GAAOAU/ref=pd_sim_vg_10 http://www.amazon.com/Little-Mermaid-nintendo-entertainment-system/dp/B00004SVRQ/ref=sr_1_8?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401606&sr=1-8 http://www.amazon.com/LITTLE-MERMAID-PRINT-STUDIO-Jewel/dp/B0006GT75W/ref=sr_1_11?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401606&sr=1-11 http://www.amazon.com/Ariel-Little-Mermaid-Sega-Genesis/dp/B000035XHW/ref=sr_1_13?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401606&sr=1-13 http://www.amazon.com/Disneys-Little-Mermaid-Game-Boy-Advance/dp/B000GAAP4K/ref=sr_1_15?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401606&sr=1-15 http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Princess%253a-Enchanted-Journey-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000R37SJ6/ref=sr_1_17?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401662&sr=1-17 http://www.amazon.com/Little-Mermaid-2-Pc/dp/B0002E6B6G/ref=sr_1_18?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401662&sr=1-18 http://www.amazon.com/Disneys-Little-Mermaid-II-Return-Sea/dp/B000H7PYZ2/ref=sr_1_20?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1296401662&sr=1-20 http://www.amazon.com/DISNEY-Princess-Fashion-Boutique-Windows-Pc/dp/B00007E8F6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1296401892&sr=1-1
I always loved the x-men because of the whole "outsiders" "different" "rejection" "unaccepted" thing.(mutants being gays in real life)
Quote from: edward on January 30, 2011, 02:54PM
I always loved the x-men because of the whole "outsiders" "different" "rejection" "unaccepted" thing.(mutants being gays in real life)
the life would be boring if there's no adventure :P so here's the challenge: making the world better and fight for .. everyones rights ;)
Well, as everyone mentioned their experience I will give mine too. I'm not the typical gay too. About the music stuff I like all the type of music, really. Its so many artists that it would be difficult to post every single one (and Lady Gaga is one of them Nowhere :P, even if I enjoy more her music then what she is becoming as a pop icon). I don't hide my sexuality, my brother, my mom, aunts, cousins, a lot of friends.. its just difficult to my father. We never really get along well with each other. When I was 6 years old or so, he already found out that, in his vision, I was a fag and that I was sick, that I should go to the hospital. My mom was pressed by him, so she took me to a psychiatrist, but it didn't change a thing. In my childhood I always wanted to play with dolls too, but they never gave me one. When I was like 10, I went to a store with my dad cause he wanted to buy a key ring to me and I chose a powerpuff girls one so he screamed with me in front of everyone and I started to cry cause he wanted to give me a "boy" one and not this sh*t one. He ended up giving me the key ring that was least then 1 dollar and it was the closest thing to a doll that I had. Time was passing and then I was raised to be a machist straight guy even inside being gay. Girls actually wanted to kiss me but I never was confortable with the situation and hide myself in a shy person, so people would thing that I was just a shy straight guy. When I went to high school I started to had feelings for a boy and he started to make jokes with me that wasn't pleasure, so I controled myself, trying to like girls. With all the pressure I forced myself to have sexual atraction to girls, but once I started to see men pics I couldn't ejacul*te for girls, and it started to disgust me, as I was machist and I couldn't handle that I was just atracted to men. Then one day I forced myself to get erect with women and I couldn't, then I hurted myself trying and cryed a lot thinking that I was sick for not get there with women. This were one of the worst days of my life, but this day I saw that I couldn't be straight cause it wasn't a choice that I could make. Even then I tried for two years to be at least "normal" for the rest of the society, with my machist feelings inserted by my father. When I was in the last year of school I made friends that accepted me as I am, then I started to be myself but the popular people that used to be my "friends" started to stop talking with me and everwhere I were in school people started to persecute me with stares and gossip. This last year was horrible and I hated the school and wanted to be free. I started to hang up with guys from internet and then started to feel as myself. But these people from chats always wanted just sex. Nowadays I don't have a boyfriend nor hang up with chat people, but I was strong enough to be myself with my family and they accept me well and I'm very happy. My religion is great, accept me as well and I'm reading books that say about sexuality in their vision and they really respect me and I enjoy that. I want to read the maximum possible of books that treats about this subject so I can help in the future young boys like me, so they can find out that they are normal and thats nothing wrong with being like us. My father already knows about me, he always knew, but pretend that I'm not one, but you know what, I don't care, cause who really loves me accept me as I am, and don't force me to be someone else. I'm who I am today. I think is it guys. Sorry for the giant text hehe ^^
nice мaгvel wатcheг :) the happy end matters ;)
I was playing with dolls when I was a little boy hehe :P and I created dresses and different kind of clothes for them:P barbie dolls
I was watching lots of colored cartoonsI had one year of Judo sport, and always I learned girls type fight moves :)) haha, its not weird
just I see girl fighers way more interesting like men fighters. I prefer gymnastics instead of football.... I prefer doing the splits instead of weights work.. and so on
the good think about myself being gay is that I am, able to think both like a woman and like a man. I can see both genders points of view in any situation :) and ... I know what love means, now I do have a bf and we have great time together. I feel way better having someone special... alone I feel off
Quote from: мaгvel wатcheг on February 01, 2011, 08:31AM
But these people from chats always wanted just sex.
Heeey, you met me! >.<
Just kidding, I know you weren't including me :P
haha yeah Nowhere .You are a sweet friend, not this kind of guy :P BTW do you get your drive license? So we can do nerds stuff together! haha xD
I'm in the process.
Me too ^-^ My test is saturday, wish me luck :P I hate parking.
Good luck on your driver's test, Marvel Watcher!
Yeah good luck, dont go Grand theft auto in the car XD or crash!
:P Thank you guys!! ^^
good luck on ur drive test, i'm sure ur gonna be a great driver мaгvel wатcheг
Thanks for the wishs ^^
@Toothless - Don't let it hurts you. She probably already knows about you and is afraid, just give her some time.
Good luck Marvelwatcher and try to bear it Toothless. My mom and dad can sometimes make similar comments and it hurts a lot.
Quote from: Toothless on February 03, 2011, 11:40AM
Edit: today I feel sad because I was watching some TLM ( The little Mermaid ) videos and my mother told me to stop because it's gay. It hurts a lot!
Awww hun just ignore her, shes just not ready to deal with it yet, so she's acting like that to make herself feel better! they go into denial for a bit, so just ignore and do what you want to do :)
ignoring her is best choice ;)
I am sorry :( and she didnt let you watch The Little Mermaid videos! What is the world coming to!
well since where on the subject of gays lol is anyone else happy ric and shatterstar finally ended up getting together lol :P i mean before when x-force planned to do it they were horribly censored and made it to look like they were close friends (Whatever) and then now you see em face munching makes you giddy inside ROFL!!
Ahh! Good for them! They need to do this in comics more!
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on February 03, 2011, 04:38PM
Ahh! Good for them! They need to do this in comics more!
Yeah i was so hoping they would do a flash back comic were we could see in more detail destiny and mystiques relationship that would be cool! :)
and maybe some of the other characters as well like maybe a more indepth look at karma of the new mutants! should be intresting :)
That would be so cool!
I wanted to make one last comment to explain why I deleted my account and left (if anyone noticed) and didn't return until now:
I found this offensive, that's my issue. While everyone in the world is screaming equality and understanding nobody seems to care whether flaunting such views would be offensive to those of us with strong religious convictions. I don't care whether it's related to a life choice, origins, whatever - when minorities feel the need to take a victim's stance it just bothers me. Gay, straight, white, black, brown, African, English, European, Indian, I don't care. You're human. The fact the people need to tell others they barely know irks me to no end. I don't walk around being all "I'm straight and happily married, I just thought you'd like to know, and so us straight and married folks can band together".
What's my point? Nobody considered whether this would offend anyone. And it's not about being gay, I have an uncle and some friends who are gay - but they don't feel the need to tell people. Why? Because it doesn't matter, and doing so only creates contention due to various beliefs. That's why on other forums I still moderate (lost all my admin privileges when I deleted my old account) there is a strict no polictics, no sexual orientation, no religion policy. Someone always disagrees, sometimes to the point of being stupid enough to delete their account. :laugh:
On a related note - those of you still of high school age don't know what you are yet in my opinion. You're still exploring, and it's not until you get out into the real world and away from the comfort of home that you define who you are. If you go one way or another that's your choice, I'm just saying you haven't experienced enough to know. You may think you know now, and you may stick with that. The point is you haven't experienced enough in life to solidify anything yet.
well, I partially agree with you. but it's not like people here are flaunting their sexual orientation to no end (ok, some are :P). But honestly you can't be offended just by the fact that someone says "I'm gay". Just like I'm not offended to know you're married to a woman. Sure, I agree it's going overboard when people start sharing their preferences in bed here, not only because it's nobody's business, but also cause we have some pretty young members in the forum who not yet have the experience and maturity to be exposed to this kinda thing. Equality is the main word. I don't care what's forbidden or what's allowed as long as it's the same for every person no matter what. I don't think it's offensive for me to share the fact that I've been victimized due to my sexual orientation, or that I'm dating a guy. But it is indeed offensive sharing other things.
Anyway, I'm just glad to have you back T-Man. \o/
I was surprised to see this thread in the forum, but I'm glad the administrators let it stay. There certainly is much that can be said on the topics of discrimination, inequality, justice, homosexuality, abortion, etc....
What I thought was great about this thread was that there were people who came to this forum because of their common interest in Marvel Ultimate Alliance and X-Men Legends but also found that they shared some "qualities" and experiences that they may not have been able to share in any other way. I think it made some people feel more "at home" here and that they had some friends that understood them better -- even though those friends may be on a different continent. Unfortunately, the sharing of those experiences had a detrimental effect on others.
Have you guys ever noticed when many strangers get together at a big gathering that they tend to gravitate towards those that they have things in common with? I think it's human nature to like to find commonalities with others. The forum was just a different place to do the same thing.
I must admit, I was also surprised to see this topic upon the forum. On gaming forums such as these, one tends to forget life exists beyond the parameters of the game and all. It was an interesting read going through each response, though there were some I disagreed with and some I agreed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I'm glad that those that had differing opinions than mine conveyed themselves with maturity. It's one thing to have a stand on a particular issue, one way or the other, however, I do believe it's a vastly different approach when condemning and hate-mongering is involved.
I consider myself bisexual, although most people in and out of the LGBT community would consider that a transitory stage to something more definitive. I agree that there's a genetic disposition regarding same gender attractions, and I thought it was aptly put that someone, regardless if they are gay or straight, makes the conscious decision to act upon those feelings. However, the source of such attraction is still, in my belief, inherent. How does that reconcile with a person who enjoys both genders? ... Gluttony? LOL No I'm kidding. I would say that although women and the thought of intimacies with them is not scary or disgusting, there is a preference for men. Perhaps that's where my genetic disposition lies. But when it comes to me and relationships, I go by the mushy saying of "personality" over "person" regardless of genitalia.
It's probably why X-Men and its characters tend to stand out so much more with the LGBT community. Like them, a majority of the community feels that they were born with this trait. Without choice in the matter, the community-at-large rejects them... rejects us. It really hits home when you have a story of Reverend William Stryker and his followers with signage that says "God Hates Mutants" and that they're abominations is strikingly parallel with very strong-convicted Christians saying the exact same thing to LGBT members. One of the story arcs that really resonates with me is "God Loves, Man Kills". It was writing like that which transformed X-Men from simply a "comic book" to an amazing graphic novel. Even recently, UXM #414 causes me to tear up every single time.
For those that don't know UXM #414, here's a quick run-down: Charles Xavier recruits Jean-Paul (aka Northstar), or rather attempts to recruit, to teach at his school. JP refuses at first, but Charles convinces him to consider it. En route, a mutant child is found with the ability to manifest explosions, and is dangerously increasing at an alarming rate. JP takes the boy by himself to a hospital or back to the X-Mansion, or some safe haven so that Nightcrawler's team (this back when Nightcrawler, Havok, Storm, and Cyclops has their own teams) wouldn't be put at risk. The boy is appreciative of the offer and begins to bond with JP until he finds out JP is gay. This causes friction between them, and through conversation, the boy and JP understand each other more. Anyway, the boy's condition worsens, as explosions happen along the way with JP withstanding them, however, the next explosion downs them. Telepathically, Xavier says that the next explosion will result in the child's death, and JP reacts angrily. JP makes the decision to stay with the boy and the explosion results in JP's hospitalization. Xavier rationalizes that there was nothing anyone could do, and JP accepts the posts as a teacher.
For anyone that has access to this comic, I highly recommend it because my summation does not do that story any justice whatsoever.
Anyway, I think stories like that, in addition to the gaming commonalities we share, provide us vehicles to herd, and group together. As Fox456 puts it, it's definitely in our nature.
How about you guys Any particular story arc that has hit home?
I had that comic! (I miss it...) I still have the one where Jean-Paul gets kidnapped by Alpha Flight or whatever and Colossus goes all out to rescue him. Awesome story. :D
I love Ultimate Colossus and Northstar. It was kind of like the jock dating the emo kid. It was so cute. Though I did find it amusing when Pitor would sneak peaks at Logan in the shower.
When JP gets kidnapped, that was in Ultimate right?
Yep, it was the whole "drug, Banshee" series. I love that part of the Ultimate series, just cause it almost showed that groups full potential. Dazzlers ability to use her lights as weapons like Psylocke (in a way), Nightcrawler used his teleportation as weapons, Rogue absorbed people just by being near them and could touch them, and Cyclops without his glasses and flying because of all the Solar power. Awesome stuff! lol
And I loved that they actually put Colossus and JP together. They fit real well. And the conflict between Nightcrawler and Colossus was really annoying. (Go figure with Nightcrawler so religous and all lol) They covered a lot in the Ultimate series, not just the gay couple, they had Scott and Jean going through trust issue's, they had Rogue as the trouble kid and went from Iceman to Gambit then back to Iceman... (which is something I've been through myself and was once the trouble child... :/ ) That's a series that needs to be read from begining to end.
Yes. It was so sad that Kurt and Piotr were such good friends, and as soon as he came out, Kurt immediately rejected him. It was a bit ironic, that people rejected Kurt, not only because of his physical mutation, but because of his resemblence to the devil, and he still rejected Piotr. It was sad, and the way they drew Piotr's reaction just broke my heart.
And yes, Ultimate covered ALOT of things. I'm pretending that Ultimatum never happened, because up until then, Ultimate X-Men was so great, along with the other Ultimate titles.
O_O.... are all x men fans gay?
Are all Ariel fans gay?
are all Jean fans gay?
O_O
nice *_* my clones *_* ( im jean ariel emma fan xDDDDDD hardcore )
btw I have to say this BUT I KNEW IT! I proved it once again that I have a gaydar YEY ^^
I am not much open but I am 2 : D xD
How didnt I know about this thread before O_O
Btw did anyone of u had weird gay x men crush? xD
mine was Beast : x but I was young >.>
Quote from: Ace on July 05, 2011, 05:30PM
Yes. It was so sad that Kurt and Piotr were such good friends, and as soon as he came out, Kurt immediately rejected him. It was a bit ironic, that people rejected Kurt, not only because of his physical mutation, but because of his resemblence to the devil, and he still rejected Piotr. It was sad, and the way they drew Piotr's reaction just broke my heart.
And yes, Ultimate covered ALOT of things. I'm pretending that Ultimatum never happened, because up until then, Ultimate X-Men was so great, along with the other Ultimate titles.
yes I agree I love Ultimate X MEN a lot they are my fave and how they drew the characters and their apperence is just perfect
Dazzler not as much she is cool but not Dazzler xD
but I love Short Hair Jean ! xD my fave Jean look ever : D
sorry to bump this, but it was an interesting read-through :)
Actually going back and reading what I had to say awhile ago I find stupid haha, I was in denial, and didn't want to accept the fact that it is not a choice, but now I realize it is not a choice and I am so happy about who I am I wouldn't want it any other way :)
Wow, didn't realize there were this many alt lifestyle Marvel-modders here. Cool, I myself am a straight dude, but I know quite a few alt lifestye people and they are the nicest and coolest people I'd ever meet.
Yeah, I'm amazed at how many gamers are open about it as well...I've been out and proud since I was 12 so I sidestepped some of the emotional issues many face today. Just glad to see there were discussions in this thread that didn't lead to holier than though bible spouting madness.
Quote from: RoMunroe on January 18, 2013, 11:47PM
Yeah, I'm amazed at how many gamers are open about it as well...I've been out and proud since I was 12 so I sidestepped some of the emotional issues many face today. Just glad to see there were discussions in this thread that didn't lead to holier than though bible spouting madness.
Those types of people (the crazed bible verse spouting people) make me almost ashamed to be Christian. :(
heyyy sort of late to the party haha but just thought I'd introduce myself as another gaymer haha. It was great reading through all this and seeing how civil people can be and I was surprised how many gay people there are on this site, a few people who's mods I use XD so hey all I'm Chris :D
Whoop whoop welcome to the party Chris! :laola:
why thank you Phoenix, I feel like I missed all the action XD so what's going on? :D
Quote from: chrismarblez on June 25, 2013, 02:48PM
why thank you Phoenix, I feel like I missed all the action XD so what's going on? :D
You know just living the dream, haha. Nothing's really going on for me that's for sure :/ I don't know about anyone else.
Even tho im not gay I accept gay people and think that there should not be a problem about your sexuality so im proud all of yall who came out even the ones that made mods that I used and I respect yall to. Yall are very brave for coming out. :storm:
Yep, I'm totally late for the party XD Altough I classify myself as bisexual, I'm exploring gay section of my personality right now. It's a little bit complicated BTW. XD
Quote from: MUALover on August 05, 2013, 12:42PM
Yep, I'm totally late for the party XD Altough I classify myself as bisexual, I'm exploring gay section of my personality right now. It's a little bit complicated BTW. XD
Welcome to the party! :laola:
Quote from: MUALover on August 05, 2013, 12:42PM
Yep, I'm totally late for the party XD Altough I classify myself as bisexual, I'm exploring gay section of my personality right now. It's a little bit complicated BTW. XD
welcome! :D If you ever want to chat I don't mind :D
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on August 06, 2013, 03:14PM
Welcome to the party! :laola:
lol thanks midnight! :D
Quote from: chrismarblez on August 06, 2013, 03:53PM
welcome! :D If you ever want to chat I don't mind :D
Thank you! A chat? Hmm.. Well, I like noodles lol. XD Well I've been hiding myself for being 'bisexual' from everyone, even my family, and my parents don't know that I'm bisexual. So it's a little bit complicated you know, hiding yourself forever from the world XD
=D