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Poll
Question: Which side wins?
Option 1: The Heroes
Option 2: The Villains
Title: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on June 24, 2007, 11:31PM
*** EARTH-616 ONLY! ***


I am for................................ da VILLAINS!!!! :D
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: boreman on June 24, 2007, 11:51PM
Do the Marvel Zombies who eat Galactus count as heroes or villains?
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: cvc on June 25, 2007, 12:03AM
It has to be the bad guys their more colorful and say neater things,unles you like with greater power comes yada yada yada shot me already  :laugh:
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: jonchang on June 25, 2007, 01:02AM
Villains all the way.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: the master$$$ on June 25, 2007, 02:45AM
VILLANS!!!
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: THX on June 25, 2007, 07:55AM
It's good to be bad :)  VILLAINS!!
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: DJay Saint on June 25, 2007, 08:16AM
I'll be a pioneer and vote for the heroes.  Most of the villains were lame...  There were those few cool ones, but a lot of them I didn't like.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: rainy_de_lunche on June 25, 2007, 08:46AM
the heroes have won hundreds of times already right? so if it is all of them against people theyve already beat then isnt it just logical to say they will win again?
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: the amazing spiderman on June 25, 2007, 10:17AM
if spiderman is in there they cant be beat =)
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: dimster on June 25, 2007, 11:17AM
villains win easily, in fact they need only 10 on their roster to kill allllllllllllll heroes (in fact i am being too nice with "10", need less than that lol)
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on June 25, 2007, 06:15PM
Quote from: boreman on June 24, 2007, 11:51PM
Do the Marvel Zombies who eat Galactus count as heroes or villains?

Hmm... I don't really count the characters outside of the Earth-616... Thanks for reminding me though! :)


Quote from: rainy_de_lunche on June 25, 2007, 08:46AM
the heroes have won hundreds of times already right? so if it is all of them against people theyve already beat then isnt it just logical to say they will win again?

plot device.... :runaway:
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Gevth on June 25, 2007, 06:50PM
Meh, supporting the villains gets old after a few days. It's more fun to see how heroes win every time, than to see villains win too often.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on June 25, 2007, 06:55PM
That is true if you like heroes more than villains!??! :P :P :P hahha
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Shauny7488 on July 02, 2007, 07:51AM
Quote from: cvc on June 25, 2007, 12:03AM
Do the Marvel Zombies who eat Galactus count as heroes or villains?

im not 100% but wernt the zombies from ultimate?

p.s. go villians, im sick of heroes winning all the time
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Shauny7488 on July 02, 2007, 07:55AM
Quote from: rainy_de_lunche on June 25, 2007, 08:46AM
the heroes have won hundreds of times already right? so if it is all of them against people theyve already beat then isnt it just logical to say they will win again?

i think the reason that the heroes win all the time is that the villains usually think up some diabolical scheme as apposed to just fighting all out
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: the amazing spiderman on July 02, 2007, 09:37AM
i can name a team that i think can beat all villains:
1.spiderman(symbiote or iron spidey suit)
2.Hulk
3.Silver surfer
4,5,6,7,and 8.All members of the illuminatti:Xavier, Dr.strange, Black bolt, Iron man, and Namor
9/10.Wolverine and/or X-23
11. Scarlet witch
12.Sandman(when he is a goodguy)
all they really need is scarlet witch and poof badies goone
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on July 02, 2007, 09:34PM
Here's my team of 12!!! 12 on 12! :P

1. Loki
2. Apocalypse
3. Mr Sinister
4. Mephisto
5. Omega Red + C-synthesizer
6. Magneto
7. Dr. Doom
8. Kang
9. Juggernaut
10. Galactus
11. Thanos
12. Ultron + disintegrator beam
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Gevth on July 02, 2007, 09:36PM
Here's my team of 1:
1) Squirrel Girl

EDIT: feel free to add Tippy-Toe to that list.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on July 02, 2007, 09:40PM
lame character, lame team
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Gevth on July 02, 2007, 09:45PM
Read Cable & Deadpool Civil War tie-in (#30) and change your mind.

I won't mention she has beaten numbers 7 and 11 of your list, since you obviously know that.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: jonchang on July 03, 2007, 07:23PM
Squirrel Girl may look and sound lame, but she rocks. She has defeated Thanos, Deadpool, Dr. Doom, and more singlehandedly.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: DJay Saint on July 03, 2007, 07:30PM
So have I.  All at the same time.  You don't see me going around bragging about it now do you?
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: the amazing spiderman on July 05, 2007, 02:35PM
iammingy, what makes you think galactus is a bad guy?
hulk, spiderman,sandman and silversurfer could take out the rest of your team
If you dont read the comics you probably dont understand how strong, durrable, and sometimes clever hulk is. he could probably take out more than half your team.and scarlet witch could take every1 out with a thought, but because loki also has reality altering powers they might short eachother out.id also like to put quick silver on my team.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on July 05, 2007, 02:54PM
Quote from: the amazing spiderman on July 05, 2007, 02:35PM
iammingy, what makes you think galactus is a bad guy?
hulk, spiderman,sandman and silversurfer could take out the rest of your team
If you dont read the comics you probably dont understand how strong, durrable, and sometimes clever hulk is. he could probably take out more than half your team.and scarlet witch could take every1 out with a thought, but because loki also has reality altering powers they might short eachother out.id also like to put quick silver on my team.

How is he not a bad guy in general? :P :P :P (I am not only one the who said so.)

I never said Hulk sucks!? And when did I ever say I don't comics? @_@ Please work out your logic.

The only 2 characters on your list that are the easiest be KO-ed are Sandman and Namor. Spider-man may be next...
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: boreman on July 05, 2007, 03:22PM
Let's see:
- Doom has tricked Surfer in every incarnation, just to prove he is the smartest villain ever an that he can steal the power cosmic with a gizmo in his wrist.
- Sandman can be easily sealed in iron by Magneto, frozen/glassified by Kang, Loki or Doom, or simply be humidified by Stan Lee with a garden hose.
- Hulk may be the strongest one there is, but Thanos is a titan with every kind of weird alien technology to combat him. Or teleport him a couple lightyears away.
- Galactus stomps over Spidey, and so on...

Villains win!

EDIT: The villains team needs Klaw, perhaps he may counter Black Bolt's power or shut Wanda up. A Super Skrull can hipnotize her too.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: the amazing spiderman on July 06, 2007, 10:16AM
sry, i didnt mean to make it seem like i was saying you didnt read comics or didnt know anything about them. my fault for saying that incorrectly.the reason im saying galactus isnt a badguy is because its not like he wants to kill people. he wouldnt just kill random heroes for no reason. He has to eat because if he is destroyed the whole universe will go out of balance.But boreman does have a point about sand man... but because, like you said, that doom always finds a way to get the power cosmic the team will most likely be ready for that kind of aproach. hhhmmmm... if only there was some online danger room that 6 people, 3 on a team, could play, each player getting 4 heroes/villains. we could at least see who would win just by all out fighting with no schemes or plots or special powers that kill every 1 in 1 hit...but then i guess we would have to pick who would fight on each team...But we do know that in secret wars,a battle against many villains and the most popular heroes of the time, the heroes won and the villains had kang, dr.doom, ultron   and magneto on there team. im sure at some pint they will make a secret wars three, and maybe it will be similar to the first one.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on July 06, 2007, 10:37AM
It's ok, I am not offended. :)
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: cvc on July 06, 2007, 10:48AM
I pick Galactus and his hench men to kill eat or destroy everything unless heroes flee with out pissing him off,but he has been tricked before other villains optional.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: ratmon on July 06, 2007, 10:01PM
Wanda kind of suxs she should really work on her powers. And one more think thanks alot Wanda for no more mutants real treat!!!
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: jonchang on July 10, 2007, 09:58PM
If Galactus is in, and the Surfer is not, then the villains will win. If Galactus is not in, then the heroes ftw.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: PackerFan8459 on November 01, 2007, 05:44PM
Quote from: rainy_de_lunche on June 25, 2007, 08:46AM
the heroes have won hundreds of times already right? so if it is all of them against people theyve already beat then isnt it just logical to say they will win again?


yea, all the heroes would definately be able to beat all the villians. The only really good villians were from the X-Men, and Spiderman, and some form Captain America's Comics, and Thanos. Maybe Galactus, but is he really evil, im not quite sure, but other than that they weren't really that impressive
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: dimster on November 01, 2007, 05:57PM
the writer of any comic have to write that good guys win, otherwise the captain america would end in 1 issue, iron man end in 1 issue, and so on, then what next???

bad guys win easily with no problem because bad guys have no problem send in lowly baddies in as a fooder, good guys wont do that lol
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on November 01, 2007, 06:01PM
Agreed.
Besides, the writers don't want to teach young comic readers to do bad things... "It's bad to be a baddie; it's bad to do bad things."  lol
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: cvc on November 01, 2007, 06:44PM
Yeah those writers,like right before your home planet get eat buy a god like Villain the beat down bloody broken Hero remembers he's got the ultimate nullifier to trade or the super gum in his back pocket,well everytime.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Lionsden99 on November 01, 2007, 10:22PM
This sounds just like the plot from secret wars.  If that's the case I vote neither and say that Dr. Doom just does what he wants and messes up the whole process.

But seriously I'd say neither would win. The whole balance of good/versus/evil thing. For Example Spidey Can beat the pants off the Sinister Six every other issue but on the other hand Magneto almost always nearly defeats how ever many X-men are thrown at him.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Dark_Mark on November 02, 2007, 07:47AM
If united, the bad guys would most probably win. But then they would keep eliminating each other, until only one of them is victorious, letting the heroes defeat him or her quite easily, so in the end the good guys would be triumphant after all.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: the master$$$ on November 02, 2007, 01:14PM
you are right mark
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: armored captian america on November 02, 2007, 01:30PM
i with the heroes becuase justice all wase pravalls
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Gevth on November 02, 2007, 01:40PM
The thing is that no villain is more powerful that every hero. Except Galactus and Thanos.
I wouldn't consider Galactus a villain, since he isn't really evil. As far as I know, it is more likely for Galactus to team up with the Fantastic Four than with any villain.
I am not sure what the power level of Thanos is. Is it that far beyond Silver Surfer's? Of course, I'm assuming Silver Surfer is more powerful than Thor, Sentry and every other hero.
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: dimster on November 02, 2007, 02:06PM
did u forgot other powerful villains like destroyer, mephisto, hela, enchantress(she can handle one thing on her own, all male heroes) ultron (20 of them or something like that), death (while under thanos control)
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: muafan on March 04, 2008, 01:27PM
folowing can beat vilians tofgether :
ilumnati
phenix
hulk
thor
surfer
wiccan
scarlet withch
good mags

Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Rasdel on March 04, 2008, 03:27PM
Just as Dark_Mark put it...

Heroes will finally win.

It's true, villains can access to really evil, low and souless acts that heroes don't... THIS gives the advantage to villains...

BUT...

Villains tend to be selfish and don't like to take orders, nor work together... SO, eventually they will betray each other AND the heroes will beat the living ·"!·$!"/"! out of them...

So there...

TA-DA... HEROES WIN...
[insert Deadpool's joke here]

Cheers
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: bleedingcowz on April 09, 2008, 03:28AM
I'd root for evil because they have such bada$$ costumes and origins but i have a question though.Is Deadpool more inclined to good or evil? i know he's a merc, but i can't really tell....
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: the amazing spiderman on May 16, 2008, 10:53PM
i cant believe i didnt add sentry to the list!!!alright, now i have around 13people on my team...
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: The Raptor on May 21, 2008, 02:20AM
Quote from: iammingy on June 24, 2007, 11:31PM
*** EARTH-616 ONLY! ***


I am for................................ da VILLAINS!!!! :D

Dude, most of the villains suck, and all the rest would get their ass kicked by Silver Surfer and Ghost Rider
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: jonchang on May 21, 2008, 05:50AM
Oh? Does Galactus and Thanos suck? How bout Blackheart?
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: iammingy on May 21, 2008, 03:16PM
Quote from: The Raptor on May 21, 2008, 02:20AM
Dude, most of the villains suck, and all the rest would get their ass kicked by Silver Surfer and Ghost Rider

One Mephisto can handle them both already........
Who cares about the rest? They weren't even on the list... lol
Title: Re: All Marvel Villains VS all Marvel Heroes
Post by: Slavic Knight on May 25, 2008, 09:25PM
For every Venom and Dr. Doom, there are seven The Owls and Vultures. Whereas only a few 616 heroes are truly lame. And, by their very nature, most villains can be defeated in a single story arc.