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Title: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on November 27, 2011, 07:53PM
I thought this could be fun. If there were to ever be a Marvel vs DC game (Which most likely will never happen) What characters would you think would be in it?

Put a character for both Marvel universe and DC universe, and then explain why they both should be featured in the game and the unique things they could do. If you want even try to make the duo a good versus pair!
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: 4elementsefww on November 27, 2011, 09:53PM
To save space and not make an enormous post, I put my selections in a quote format

From DC:

QuoteRaven: Interesting storyline (the whole hero thing even though her dad trigon is a demon) Personality would call for interesting dialogue (the whole withdrawn thing because emotions govern powers)  Cool variety of powers (constructs, empathy, telepathy, phasing, astral energy)  Also cool costume.

Green lantern: Awesome imaginative/unique powers, many possibilities for skins since there are many different green lantern characters

Superman: Iconic character with good powerset

Martian Manhunter:  Cool background story, Vulneralability to fire would make interesting gameplay, Awesome powers (density shifting, morphing, strength, telepathy)

Saturn girl:  Female character, telepathy

Batman: Iconic, Storyline is interesting along with personality, uses weapons, so it gives people a tech character

Hawkgirl: Interesting costume, would be fun to use mace to smash things with

Vixen: Female, cool abilities (mystic gem that allows her to take on the abilities of different animals)

Black Canary: canary cry power is cool, also good  female brawler

Zatara:  Magical character

Zatana: father daughter duo team bonus, also magical character, could maybe make use of not being able to use abilities when she can't talk as a weakness

Secret: Interesting background, and cool powers, and maybe the cause of her death in relation to brother could make a awesome addition to storyline and boss fight with Harm.

Aqualad or Aquaman: cool powers in the sense of water hasn't really been used in a game so it would provide a unique set of powers.

Marvel characters:

QuoteNightcrawler: Awesome powers and martial artist.

Emma Frost:  Telepathy and diamond form gives her a good combination of powers and her past with the hellfire club would give the story an interesting location for a battle or two.

Wasp:  New and unique set of powers like aquaman/lad, female character

Cloak and dagger: duo as one character with them switching off for powers, kind-of like sheik and zelda for the SSB game, Cool powers

Iceman:  Classic, good powers

Storm: Classic has wide array of potential powers

Boom Boom: Interesting powers providing cool visual effects

Stepford Cuckoos:  interesting personality conflicts, telepathy

Legion:  Multiple personality disorder would add some spice to the storyline, and Wide array of powers

Crystal:  Cool powers and addition of earth water and wind powers would give her uniqueness

Deadpool:  Funny personality and weapons specialist for people who like those abilities

Gambit:  fun powers

Rogue:  Cool powers, maybe she can absorb powers of people she defeated in a level (power absorbed would be like either she gets a blast power, a defensive power, or a melee power from them)

Songbird:  Fun Unique powers with also a wrestler's background making her a good brawler also

Of course there would be many more from both DC and Marvel, but I think that these characters would bring a unique aspect and some are just really fun
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: edheng23 on November 28, 2011, 01:51AM
actually a Marvel vs DC game could happen if Yoshinori Ono has his way

http://videogames.cosmicbooknews.com/content/capcom-producer-yoshinori-ono-wants-marvel-vs-dc-video-game

licensing will be a problem though

and give me Power Girl and Songbird and they can put any character in the game and they will still have my money
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: fox456 on November 28, 2011, 04:32AM
@4elementsefww:

Wow!  Maybe there IS already one of these Mavel vs DC games in the making and you're on the development team.  :)  That's alot of great ideas there.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Scabbia on November 28, 2011, 07:04AM
I know someone made a MUGEN version of Marvel vs DC, which was fun. But as long as Rogue and Wonder Woman are on it, I'd be happy. Love watching them battle it out.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: 4elementsefww on November 28, 2011, 11:50AM
Quote from: fox456 on November 28, 2011, 04:32AM
@4elementsefww:

Wow!  Maybe there IS already one of these Mavel vs DC games in the making and you're on the development team.  :)  That's alot of great ideas there.

LOL Thanks.  That would be awesome to work on a game like that.  For me I chose people that I thought were fun, unique, would add something interesting to the storyline (background of the character, personality, etc), also I tried to incorporate more of a balance of male and female.  And I tried breaking away from characters that I thought are over used or to me didn't add anything fun to the story or didn't have very imaginative powers, for instance I didn't include characters like:

Wolverine - (overused period, but also not many good powers from a slice and dice character)
Spidey - (overused also like wolverine, and you can't expand much on powers)
Jean grey - (I love her but she is too much drama)
Cyclops - (shoots eyes beams, can't really elaborate much on powers there)
The Flash - (I like the character, but superspeed doesn't lend itself to many powers)

and others as well.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on November 28, 2011, 02:36PM
This is my roster! As much as I love characters like Vision, Songbird, Polaris, etc. I'm going with a roster that makes the most sense. The top A-List heroes and villains from both universes. I just can't imagine the game developers giving up Spidey or Batman for Squirrel Girl and Plastic Man lol.

Aquman - unique with ocean/water powers
Batman - must have! one of the big three
Black Canary - female martial artist with sonic scream. what else?
Captain Marvel - classic hero. once more popular than Superman
Catwoman - iconic femme fatale. fun powerset
Darkseid - BIG villain of the DC universe
Deathstroke - "Original" Deadpool with stealthy powerset
Flash - very iconic and superspeed grants a unique powerset
Green Arrow - unique powerset with bow and arrow
Green Lantern - very iconic and goes well with the recent movie
Hawkgirl - sort of an unexpected character but fun to use
Joker - must have villain as Batman's archenemy!
Lex Luthor - must have villain as Superman's archenemy!
Nightwing - represents Batman world. Fan-favorite
Robin - pretty much save as Nightwing. But more iconic!
Sinestro - opposite of Green Lantern. Similar but also unique moves
Supergirl - girl power! Can have different style than Superman
Superman - must have! one of the big three
Wonder Woman - must have! one of the big three

Captain America - iconic hero of Marvel. Goes with Cap and Avengers movies
Daredevil - fan-favorite of Marvel characters. Needs more promotion
Deadpool - another biggie for Marvel. Very popular in recent years!
Doctor Doom - Marvel's major villain. He is another must-have
Doctor Strange - represents magic as the Sorceror Supreme
Green Goblin - one of Spidey's archenemies. Very fun powerset
Hulk - iconic hero of Marvel. Big, green, gamma bruiser
Iron Man - iconic hero of Marvel. Especially big from his movies
Magneto - another big villain of Marvel. Must-have for the X-Men
Ms. Marvel - girl power! Female tank and needs more promotion
Phoenix - fan-favorite for Marvel. Psychic and fire powers
Silver Surfer - needs a cosmic hero and Surfer fits best
Spider-Man - must have! Marvel's biggest character
Storm - most popular heroine for Marvel. Unique powerset
Thanos - BIG villain of the Marvel universe
Thor - pretty big character. Thor and Avengers movies help
Venom - another of Spidey's archenemies. Fan-favorite
Wolverine - 2nd to Spidey. Yet another must-have!
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on November 28, 2011, 03:44PM
YAY! Im glad people are having fun with this :)

I love everyones ideas! Marvelfan and 4Elements you guys went all out I like it :) I do agree tho I doubt the developers would let go of their prized possesions. And this would be like the game of the year it would be pretty big.

I Feel these people would be in it no matter what.

Marvel:
Wolverine
Hulk
Thor
Spiderman

DC:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash

Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: LX - Rampage on November 28, 2011, 10:44PM
Quote from: 4elementsefww on November 28, 2011, 11:50AM
LOL Thanks.  That would be awesome to work on a game like that.  For me I chose people that I thought were fun, unique, would add something interesting to the storyline (background of the character, personality, etc), also I tried to incorporate more of a balance of male and female.  And I tried breaking away from characters that I thought are over used or to me didn't add anything fun to the story or didn't have very imaginative powers, for instance I didn't include characters like:

Wolverine - (overused period, but also not many good powers from a slice and dice character)
Spidey - (overused also like wolverine, and you can't expand much on powers)
Jean grey - (I love her but she is too much drama)
Cyclops - (shoots eyes beams, can't really elaborate much on powers there)
The Flash - (I like the character, but superspeed doesn't lend itself to many powers)

and others as well.
You know what's fun? Most of the characters you have wouldn't put in a game would be included if this game would be ever done, due to the fact, that they could sell the game easier with these :D Plus some others too, like Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor. So characters, who had their own movies would totally make the cut for a game like this :D
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on November 29, 2011, 04:11PM
If Jean would get in they better not make her weak like MVC3 I dont even want her powerful, just like every other character
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Nowhere Man on November 29, 2011, 07:03PM
I like marvelfan's list. I'd only have nigtwing as an alternate costume for robin and have Martian Manhunter instead. I'd also replace Supergirl for Zatanna.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on November 29, 2011, 07:57PM
Lol I completely forgot those two! I'm not a big DC expert so not suprised I forgot Zatanna but I remember Martian Manhunter from the Justice League show. Totally weird that I forgot him.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: 4elementsefww on November 30, 2011, 12:14PM
Quote from: Suigetsu on November 28, 2011, 10:44PM
You know what's fun? Most of the characters you have wouldn't put in a game would be included if this game would be ever done, due to the fact, that they could sell the game easier with these :D Plus some others too, like Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor. So characters, who had their own movies would totally make the cut for a game like this :D

I know that those characters are sellers, and I feel that that is something unfortunate, because other cool characters with cool backgrounds and interesting powers would never get used.  For instance in my list I included characters like secret, vixen, and legion.  Those 3 I think are really unique but not really mentioned a whole lot.  But I only learned about Legion from the episode in the x-men evolution series, and I first saw vixen in the JL:U series, and also secret was just featured on the young justice series, and all of them had something interesting about them, but they don't seem to get much attention.

I'm not much of a comic book person myself.  I like watching the shows and movies because for me it is easy to find a start to end sequence, in the sense that you can start a show from episode 1 and finish with the last episode, and movies you watch the movie from start to finish, with comics I think that it would be hard to find a place to start, or even where to start since there are so many universes and many different lines that intersect with each other.  So my knowledge comes from movies and shows, and from characters that I research using the internet, which  to some may not be a sufficient amount of knowledge. 

Also I find it interesting that in your list of others that would definitely be in the game (Ironman, Hulk, Capt. America, and Thor) were all male including the ones you said that I wouldn't put in that would be in all but 1 was male.  In my list I included mostly a mixed gender, but many of the superhero games have mostly male heroes.  In my opinion (keyword opinion) a lot of the women have better powers that I think would be more fun to play as. 

I think though that DC incorporates males and females more equally than marvel (at least with featuring them) or maybe that's just what I think.

Also just to note my list consists of people I think would be fun to play as, I didn't include villians (exept when I talked about story line like raven's dad trigon, emma frost's past with the inner circle, and secret's brother Harm as a boss fight).  I also didn't include NPC's either.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: LX - Rampage on November 30, 2011, 10:59PM
Well, if you look at it, I named the characters, who had their movies, but you originally didn't name them. Of course, as most comic geeks, I have my own favourites of Marvel women, but still, if any kind of Marvel and DC game would be made, I would be the happiest, if it would be something like MUA, so that I could go around teaming with Deadpool, Nightwing (Dick Grayson is by far the coolest character, with the Robin origin, in my opinion), Batman (childhood favourite because of his mask :D ) and I think Powergirl.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: 4elementsefww on December 01, 2011, 12:03PM
That's kind-of what I am saying also.  Movies tend to be about the guy heroes with the female heroes either being support, weak, or not there at all.  Look at movies like fantastic four, I really love the team and I love sue, and I love how Jessica Alba portrayed the character, but she got nosebleeds all the time and was a weaker character also movies like batman movies, bat woman I think appeared in one of the movies, the one with poison ivy and she wasn't that big of a character there if my memory is correct.  Very few movies revolve around the female hero.  I do feel that everyone should have their own opinion, I mean let face it if people didn't have differing opinions, people as a whole wouldn't grow and life would be pretty boring.  I also agree that Robin/nightwing would be cool, but to me I wanted to make my list fairly consolidated and even and to me I had to choose between batman and robin and for me I'd choose batman.  Also Powergirl would have been cool, but she shares pretty much the same abilities as superman, and again I'd rather go with superman than powergirl, plus having superman balanced out my ratio of women and men better in my roster.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on December 01, 2011, 04:00PM
If the game was like Marvel vs Capcom 3 you could have 3 people per team and team up with Marvel and DC aganist maybe 1 or 2 people from both universes that have teamed up. I think it would be cool if they went off of the X-Men and Teen Titans crossover where Darkseid and Dark Phoenix worked together! Although I doubt that would happen.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: edheng23 on December 01, 2011, 11:09PM
the problem i can see with a  DC and Marvel game is that who is going to make it? Capcom will obviously be Marvel's choice to make a fighting game but DC is owned by Warner Bros and they will want Nether realm studios to make it as NR is owned by WB
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: LX - Rampage on December 01, 2011, 11:34PM
Well, personally I would still stick with a MUA style of a game. It would be more interesting than a fighting game, plus they could really use up the capabilities of all heroes.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: 4elementsefww on December 02, 2011, 01:28PM
Quote from: Suigetsu on December 01, 2011, 11:34PM
Well, personally I would still stick with a MUA style of a game. It would be more interesting than a fighting game, plus they could really use up the capabilities of all heroes.

yea I agree I too would want it to be a storyline adventure type of game instead of a side scrolling vs. fight, although I would like to have a character vs character type of practice room with the mua format also, which i thought mua lacked, a sort of danger room type thing.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 09:56AM
Was bored on New Years (lol) so I made this to show off the rosters on both sides. I think its the same as the roster I posted on the 1st page. I'd keep it a fighting game but add a much bigger and more important story unlike MvC3 which didn't even have one. The game would either be the MvC3 format (3 heroes on teams) or the Super Smash Bros Brawl format.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/2wq722x.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/mc3iag.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 02, 2012, 10:01AM
This looks awesome! I love the roster :) and I agree about the story!
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 10:49AM
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on January 02, 2012, 10:01AM
This looks awesome! I love the roster :) and I agree about the story!
Thanks and yeah the story is a big part to me and it bugged me that MvC3 didn't have one. Actually it bugged me even more that they were raving about how great and important the story is....and then it doesn't even have one!!!

Lol can you think of any DLC for the roster? I can think of Marvel heroes/villains easily but not for DC
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 02, 2012, 11:01AM
I know I wish it did have a story.. Oh well. And for DLC umm Robin maybe, Poison Ivy, Raven, Starfire, Beast Boy
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 11:05AM
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on January 02, 2012, 11:01AM
I know I wish it did have a story.. Oh well. And for DLC umm Robin maybe, Poison Ivy, Raven, Starfire, Beast Boy
Robin's already on there lol. You seem like a Teen Titans fan though.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 02, 2012, 11:17AM
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 11:05AM
Robin's already on there lol. You seem like a Teen Titans fan though.

Oh I couldnt see Robin XD and Teen Titans are just the only others I can think of :D
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 11:24AM
Have you guys seen this before?
http://femmes-fatales.deviantart.com/art/Glamour-Slam-DC-vs-Marvel-170682281

It's a DC vs Marvel game but only women. I pretty much like the roster except for the villainesses (like Thalia, Typhoid Mary, Viper, and Lady Bullseye)
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 02, 2012, 12:17PM
I wish that was a game :D
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 12:29PM
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on January 02, 2012, 12:17PM
I wish that was a game :D
Me too! Except I'd remove Thalia, Typhoid Mary, Lady Bullseye, and Viper for Supergirl, Mystique, Invisible Woman, and Rogue. These would be the new match-ups. I didn't like the obscure villains especially when there is no Mystique!

Wonder Woman vs She-Hulk
Supergirl vs Ms. Marvel
Batgirl vs Black Widow
Zatanna vs Scarlet Witch
Hawkgirl vs Phoenix
Poision Ivy vs Storm
Catwoman vs Elektra
Black Canary vs Spider-Woman
Huntress vs Black Cat
Power Girl vs Rogue
Harley Quinn vs Mystique
Big Barda vs Invisible Woman
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 02, 2012, 12:43PM
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 12:29PM
Me too! Except I'd remove Thalia, Typhoid Mary, Lady Bullseye, and Viper for Supergirl, Mystique, Invisible Woman, and Rogue. These would be the new match-ups. I didn't like the obscure villains especially when there is no Mystique!

Wonder Woman vs She-Hulk
Supergirl vs Ms. Marvel
Batgirl vs Black Widow
Zatanna vs Scarlet Witch
Hawkgirl vs Phoenix
Poision Ivy vs Storm
Catwoman vs Elektra
Black Canary vs Spider-Woman
Huntress vs Black Cat
Power Girl vs Rogue
Harley Quinn vs Mystique
Big Barda vs Invisible Woman

I agree although I do like Thalia a bit
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 12:48PM
Quote from: midnightphoenix123 on January 02, 2012, 12:43PM
I agree although I do like Thalia a bit
Me too actually...so if it was a real game with that roster I wouldn't mind her inclusion. It's really just the three villains on the Marvel side who I have no care for.
Title: Re: Marvel Vs. D.C. (If there was one?)
Post by: Midnightphoenix on January 02, 2012, 04:24PM
Quote from: MarvelFan12345 on January 02, 2012, 12:48PM
Me too actually...so if it was a real game with that roster I wouldn't mind her inclusion. It's really just the three villains on the Marvel side who I have no care for.

Yeah we need better Marvel female villians in there!