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Title: What is "Earth-7150?"
Post by: Outsider on October 27, 2021, 02:20pm
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What is "Earth-7150?"
It is an unofficial alternate universe of Marvel's Earth-616 created by us with its own designation. It covers our Marvel: Ultimate Alliance game where characters from numerous franchises can appear. We also use this universe to pretend or flat-out ignore some of Marvel's most questionable retcons, as though they never happened. Mostly the ideas of myself and Ceamonks, the majority of our members agree with this.

Yep, that's pretty much it.

So, let's look at what's in our universe...




:spiderman: Spider-Man & Mary Jane are still married. The events of "One More Day" never happened. Many of us feel that Mephisto is not a Spider-Man villain and shouldn't be involved in his stories. That, and the idea that Peter was forced to make a deal and give up his marriage to MJ is just foolish. We'd rather have Peter and MJ grow together and help each other, good times and bad. Spider-Man's taken a lot of losses in his life -- he deserves a win.

:venom: While Knull is the Symbiote God and creator of the symbiotes, the white spider symbol that first appeared on Julia Carpenter (Spider-Woman II/Arachne) did not come from symbiote dragons. It was simply a cool design that Spider-Man liked during the Secret Wars, and adopted it when the black symbiote bonded with him. We felt it was stupid for the symbol to be connected to symbiote dragons, when there's no explanation as to how Julia had that symbol, as there was no symbiote bonded to her.

Nightwatch was not secretly a villain named "Nighteater" the whole time, who was apprehended by She-Hulk. Actually, the real Nightwatch (who aided Spider-Man in the "Maximum Carnage" story and had adventures of his own) was framed by an alternate version of himself named Nighteater. For more on this in particular, see my fanfiction story that fixes up the ridiculous retcons:  https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13555337/1/Nightwatch-The-Revelation OR https://archiveofourown.org/works/23712409

:xmen_logo: The X-Men do not live on the living island of Krakoa, and get regrown as plant clones if they die. Never happened. They still reside at or visit the Xavier Institute for the Gifted. We are not fans of the Krakoa storyline mainly because it cheapens death and goes too far away from what made the X-Men and their splinter teams so popular in the first place. We don't mind change... if it makes sense. This one doesn't.

:scarletw: Scarlet Witch and :quicks: Quicksilver are still mutants and are still Magneto's children. We know the only reason they retconned it and said they weren't was because at the time, FOX owned the X-Men rights but not the rights to these characters, and they couldn't even be referred to as mutants. But, that's over now. Marvel/Disney owns the film rights to the X-Men, and as such, there is no reason to continue that charade. Pietro has been with X-Factor (one of the X-Men splinter teams), and Wanda -- even though an Avenger, is also X-Men adjacent. Welcome back, mutants.

:capamer: Captain America never said "Hail HYDRA!" The writer came up with something that angered so many, including us. Later, they tried to save face and said that was actually some an alternate reality version of Cap who became known as the HYDRA Supreme that the real Cap eventually defeated. Fine. In our universe, Cap is still the quintessential hero who at heart is "just a kid from Brooklyn." No recent story will change that.

:shehulk: She-Hulk never turned into... this (https://i1.wp.com/aiptcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Avengers-20-Header.png). Nope, never happened. Jennifer Walters is still the beautiful, green-skinned, fourth-wall-breaking lawyer we all know and love. Like I said, we don't mind change, but only if it makes sense. So far, there's been no real reason for that nonsense.

:thor: The hammer of Thor named Mjolnir did not somehow become sentient after Jane Foster became the female Thor. Odin alone decides who is worthy to wield it. Also, nothing that Nick Fury tells Thor will ever suddenly make him and other gods unworthy. That was a dumb explanation, so we're denouncing that.

Various organizations like the Fantastic Four and SHIELD have access to portal gateways, allowing Marvel characters from another time, planet, or alternate dimension to appear in this universe. The same is true for non-Marvel characters -- whether willingly or reluctantly. Madame Web or the Exiles can allow characters from alternate realities to appear as well.

The Shroud did not retire from superhero work for reasons of insanity. Instead, he got the professional help he desperately needed upon realizing how much his crusade as a vigilante was taking its toll on him. He went to Doc Samson for psychiatric help and ultimately found a new purpose in life. He only comes out of retirement to become The Shroud again for his now wife, Julia Carpenter's, sake.

All of Ceamonks' mods particularly come with a brief story as to how they are playable in this reality. An example of this is that the Lilandra that's been captured by the Shi'ar (in the game) is not the real one, as she escaped and reached Earth to seek the X-Men's aid. The captured "Lilandra" is actually one of Deathbird's loyal servants disguised as her, in a clever ploy to trick the heroes into saving her and risk getting themselves killed and allowing Deathbird more time to escape. Visit the release posts of his mods to read their particular cases.



(I will add more soon as they come.)


Title: Re: What is "Earth-7150?"
Post by: TheMK on October 27, 2021, 03:18pm
This is really great! I 100% agree with everything here!
Title: Re: What is "Earth-7150?"
Post by: Ceamonks890 on November 15, 2021, 08:10pm
To further expand on the differences Earth-7150 brings to established characters from across many IPs:

-Emil Blonsky never returned to out-of-character villainy after Incredible Hulk Vol. 1 (1968) issue #384 and engage in increasingly barbaric and irredeemable acts to ruin the Hulk's life out of pure spite, instead choosing to accept his new life as the permanently changed Abomination and put his personal vendetta against the Hulk to rest for good (as he became a protector for the sewer dwellers that lived underneath New York). Only becomes involved with the alliance, due to curiosity at Ultron's sentry ships being on nearby rooftops and arriving on the Helicarrier as a stowaway onboard one of the invading enemy ships. 

-The original Maestro from Hulk: Future Imperfect returned to life on Earth-7150 some time after being defeated by his heroic younger Hulk counterpart in Incredible Hulk Vol. 1 (1968) issue #461, not permanently staying dead as in the main Marvel comics timeline. Due to being a gamma being, the Maestro has realized he's now immortal and doesn't stay dead for long (despite his recovery time from death being much slower than the Devil Hulk's, in accordance with his extreme old age). Hopes to take down the Masters of Evil under the guise of good intentions, in order to rule this new world for himself.

-All the other comic Hulk personas of Bruce Banner's are able to exist simultaneously due to being pulled from across time and space. Joe Fixit & Devil Hulk are pulled from the past and future of Earth-7150 respectively, while Merged Hulk & Green Scar originate from realities where specific events in Peter David and Greg Pak's related comic runs never occurred and they were able to lead more happy lives until being brought on-board the alliance.

-The playable Watcher Uatu is not the same one who intervenes in the story to save the alliance from being erased by Doctor Doom on Asgard, instead being pulled from an alternate reality where the council of Watchers were more lenient on what events this specific version of Uatu could get involved in.

-Byrrah is playable from a narrative sense after the events of Atlantis, putting his personal vendetta towards Namor and the alliance of heroes aside for the sake of getting back at Doctor Doom for cheating him of riches beyond his wildest dreams.

-Theodore Winchester's Grizzly was pulled from the past of an alternate timeline by the Exiles, preventing his death at Domino's hands. Thanks to the work of telepathic Exile members, they were able to largely fix the damage Cable's evil son, Genesis, had done to Grizzly's mind and allow him the opportunity to start fresh on Earth-7150.

-Moira MacTaggert was never secretly a mutant who had witnessed the inevitable failure of Charles Xavier, Magneto & Apocalypse's dreams for mutantkind. She's just an incredibly talented human geneticist who still firmly believes in Charles Xavier's dream of a peaceful co-existence between humans and mutants alike.

-The version of Mikhail Rasputin that's playable, originates originally from the Age of Apocalypse timeline. During his time in a pocket dimension after the AOA timeline was seemingly undone with Bishop going back in time to prevent Charles Xavier's death, he managed to encounter his primary Earth-616 counterpart who possessed reality altering abilities that proved too much for him to continually bear and had closed himself off from the primary Marvel universe, for the sake of his younger siblings Colossus & Magik. Playing it smart, AOA Mikhail would trick 616 Mikhail into transferring his power to him and free 616 Mikhail of his burden by effectively killing him, arriving on Earth-7150 by generating an escape portal out of the pocket dimension as he gleefully tests out his new powers that served to compliment his natural superhuman strength, speed, regeneration & teleportation abilities quite nicely.

-Thomas Moreau's Zealot did not die at Magneto's hands during the events of the three part mini-series Magneto Rex, instead managing to teleport out of the makeshift prison Magneto forced him into in the nick of time via a hidden device on his person, seemingly perishing to everyone else in the depths of outer space. Going into hiding within one of his underground hideouts on Genosha for several years to plot his retaliation against Magneto, he would attempt to contact Doctor Doom via telecommunications and join his 'Masters of Evil' group that he'd heard about via the local grapevine. Rejected in laughter by Doom himself, he sets out to take Doom and his forces down for daring to humiliate him in front of his loyal subjects.

-The version of Destiny that is playable among the mutant forces, is a perfect genetic clone of the original Irene Adler, created by Mr. Sinister for his own ends (the original Destiny having died long before during the 'Fall of the Mutants' storyline). Is ultimately saved by Mystique and the Brotherhood, brought back to Genosha for her own safety after utilizing a new astral projection ability to let Mystique know she was seemingly alive again.

-The playable Senator Kelly is from an alternate reality based off the original 20th Century Fox X-Men movies, having lived via a stabilizing genetic sample applied to him by his world's version of Moira MacTaggert that allowed his body to more easily accept the unnatural mutation forced on him by Magneto. Joins the alliance of Earth-7150 through the Exiles bringing him to this timeline for the sake of the multiverse's survival at large.

-Ka-Zar's arch enemy, Garokk, is more of an anti-hero on Earth-7150 (looking out more for the interests of his people and followers within the Savage Land, rather than settling on pure villainy).

-The version of Superior Spider-Man that is playable, originates from an alternate reality where he completely rejected Mephisto's offer to become Doctor Octopus again in the 2019 Superior Spider-Man comic series and retroactively undo all the good actions he'd accomplished in California, his stubbornness and newfound appreciation for helping people making him hold his ground and put a stop to an alternate spider-powered Norman Osborn from destroying his life, this version of Otto Octavius still being active as the Superior Spider-Man.

More to come...