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Title: Cyclops's powers
Post by: kfcrispy on November 10, 2009, 09:48PM
hmmm, i'm always confused it if those possessive -s words should be Cyclops' or Cyclops's.. neither one looks good. i was reading the marvel wikia and it said his beams actually come from another dimension yada yada, and that his psionic powers help control it (read it! http://marvel.wikia.com/Scott_Summers_(Earth-616) (http://marvel.wikia.com/Scott_Summers_(Earth-616))). but what about energy absorption? i had always through Cyclops absorbs solar energy and unleashes it as his beams. even one of the earliest 90's X-Men cartoons demonstrated that when he was in the sewers and ran out of juice, his beams were done. so is Marvel Wikia missing this bit, or was something retconned?

Also, both of his brothers absorb different kinds of energy.
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: piutebob on November 10, 2009, 09:56PM
It would be Cyclops's. Traditionally, only Jesus and Moses possesive would be like Jesus' or Moses'.
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: Nowhere Man on November 10, 2009, 10:14PM
in the animated series his power was to absorb sun radiation as a battery and use it to power his concussive beams. in the comics his powers were never really explained till recently.

but I agree with you. to me it would make more sense ho have him absorbing sun radiation so he'd be more similar to his brothers.

oh, just to be clear. that episode of the 90's series when he lost his power cause he ran out of juice while underground was not what happened in that storyline in the comics. there it was Angel the one kidnapped by Callisto. but, as you know, angel was not an x-man in TAS.
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: kfcrispy on November 11, 2009, 10:28PM
hmm so i guess I'll just have to go with the psionic-control-with-eyes-acting-as-apertures-for-a-non-Einsteinian-universe explanation...

Colossus has a similar explanation to his metallic skin... he basically trades his organic parts for his alternate universe/dimension versions that are all metallic (and of course, he grows in size as a result!)
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: iFlower_ino_Yamanaka on December 11, 2009, 04:53PM
Cyclops power is very easy to understand. :cyclops:
Cyclops possesses the mutant ability to project a powerful beam of concussive, ruby-colored force from his eyes. Cyclops's eyes are no longer the complex organic jelly that utilizes the visible spectrum of light to see the world around it. Instead, they are inter-dimensional apertures between this universe and another, non-Einsteinian universe, where physical laws as we know them do not pertain. This non-Einsteinian universe is filled with particles that resemble photons, yet they interact with this universe's particles by transferring kinetic energy in the form of gravitons (the particle of gravitation). These particles generate great, directional concussive force when they interact with the objects of this universe.

Cyclops's mind has a particular psionic field that is attuned to the forces that maintain the apertures that have taken the place of his eyes. Because his mind's psionic field envelops his body, it automatically shunts the other-dimensional particles back into their point of origin when they collide with his body. Thus, his body is protected from the effects of the particles, and even the thin membrane of his eyelids is sufficient to block the emission of energy. The synthetic ruby quartz crystal used to fashion the lenses of Cyclops's eyeglasses and visor is resonant to his minds' psionic field and is similarly protected.

The width of Cyclops's eye-blast seems to be focused by his mind's psionic field with the same autonomic function that regulated his original eyes' ability to focus. As Cyclops focuses, the size of the aperture changes and thus act as a valve to control the flow of particles and beam's relative power. The height of Cyclops's eye-blast is controlled by his visor's adjustable slit. His narrowest beam, about the diameter of a pencil at a distance of 4 feet has a force of about 2 pounds per square inch. His broadest beam, about 90 feet across at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of about 10 pounds per square inch. His most powerful eye-blast is a beam 4 feet across which, at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of 500 pounds per square inch. The maximum angular measurement of Cyclops's eye-blast is equivalent to a wide-angle 35mm camera lens field of view (90 degrees measured diagonally, or the angle subtended by holding a magazine's pages spread open, upright at 9.5 inches from your eyes). The minimum angular measurement is equivalent to the angle that the thickness of a pencil would subtend at 4 feet (3.5 degrees, about a quarter of an inch viewed at 4 feet). The beam's effective range is about 2,000 feet, at which point a 1-inch beam has spread out to 10 feet square, and then has a pressure of .38 pounds per square inch. Cyclops's maximum force is sufficient to tip over a filled 5,000 gallon tank at a distance of 20 feet, or puncture a 1-inch carbon-steel plate at a distance of 2 feet.

The extra dimensional supply of energy for Cyclops's eye-blast is practically infinite. Thus, so long as Cyclops's psionic field is active (which is constant), there is the potential to emit energy. The only limit to the eye-blast is the mental fatigue of focusing constantly. After about 15 minute of constant usage, the psionic field subsides and allows only a slight leakage of energy to pass through the aperture. Cyclops's metabolism will recover sufficiently for him to continue in about an additional 15 minutes.

The maximum force of Cyclops' optic blasts are unknown, but a commonly given description is that he can "punch holes through mountains", and he has been shown to rupture a half-inch thick carbon steel plate. During a particular battle, Scott says that he hit Cain Marko (a.k.a. the Juggernaut) with enough power to split a small planet in half, though he may have been indulging in hyperbole. In the Age of Apocalypse dimension, his beams can cut through adamantium a previously indestructible metal. In the mainstream continuity of the Marvel Universe, it has also been implied that Cyclops only utilizes a fraction of the energies at his disposal. During the Civil War: X-Men story arc, Cyclops is controlled by another mutant to use his powers at their full magnitude. When directed at the energy-absorbing mutant Bishop, Cyclops was able to overload Bishop's powers in a matter of seconds. When Iron-man measured Cyclops's power whilst he was powering bishop, he found the energy output was well over 2 gigawatts, larger than a large nuclear reactor. It is also stated that Cyclops does not use his powers at such a level due to the preoccupation he has regarding his control (or lack thereof) of his abilities.

Cyclops is seen fighting The Hulk in World War Hulk: X-Men #1 and in issue #2, where he uses a beam blast to stop the Hulk, refusing to let the Hulk take Professor Xavier. While it peels off some of the Hulk's skin, he was able to walk towards Cyclops and clench his entire face, effectively containing the blast.
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: Nowhere Man on December 11, 2009, 09:40PM
thanks for copying and pasting the info from marvel database that started this discussion in the first place. ¬¬
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: Dihan on December 12, 2009, 05:37AM
Quote from: piutebob on November 10, 2009, 09:56PM
It would be Cyclops's. Traditionally, only Jesus and Moses possesive would be like Jesus' or Moses'.

Wrong.

Things like Jesus, Moses, Zeus, Socrates, etc aren't the only thing that can't make a singular possessive with just an apostrophe, they just can't make a singular possessive with apostrophe s. A singular possessive for Jones, James, Cyclops, etc can be with apostrophe s or just an apostrophe.

Therefore your lesson on basic English grammar is wrong.
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: Shauny7488 on December 12, 2009, 05:43AM
Quote from: iFlower_ino_Yamanaka on December 11, 2009, 04:53PM
Cyclops power is very easy to understand. :cyclops:
Cyclops possesses the mutant ability to project a powerful beam of concussive, ruby-colored force from his eyes. Cyclops's eyes are no longer the complex organic jelly that utilizes the visible spectrum of light to see the world around it. Instead, they are inter-dimensional apertures between this universe and another, non-Einsteinian universe, where physical laws as we know them do not pertain. This non-Einsteinian universe... etc etc

OK.
1. Who is going to read all of that? It's the internet, 99% of people on the internet have the attention span of a 3 year old.
2. Is posting a link really that hard?
3. Your sig is a bit too big in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: piutebob on December 12, 2009, 04:14PM
Quote from: Shauny7488 on December 12, 2009, 05:43AM
OK.
1. Who is going to read all of that? It's the internet, 99% of people on the internet have the attention span of a 3 year old.
2. Is posting a link really that hard?
3. Your sig is a bit too big in my opinion.

Agreed on all three points. Except #1. Many people a shorter attention span then that, including me.
Title: Re: Cyclops's powers
Post by: Shauny7488 on December 13, 2009, 06:10AM
Quote from: piutebob on December 12, 2009, 04:14PM
Agreed on all three points. Except #1. Many people a shorter attention span then that, including me.

I was trying to be nice to the internet :D