Cyclops vs. Wolverine

Started by LX - Rampage, February 28, 2009, 03:42PM

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Quote from: warmachine300 on March 01, 2009, 06:35PM
The Hulk is stupid. Many heroes could pound him!
Maybe Hulk is little in the head, but BIG, I mean HUGE, GIANT (so you got it) in the fist. In World War Hulk, he was like unstoppable! So, beating Hulk is like winning a war!

To:warmachine300

The hulk  :hulk_icon: isnt always stupid, for example in world war hulk he definetly wasnt dum. Him and his team took out  nearly all the heros. only the sentry could face the hulk and even he had to go all out.

Okay, in the end: to warmachine300, Hulk is the strongest there is, even if he is dumb. Okay now, back to the topic itself.

All i can say to that is mind over muscle. He may be strong but its all about your tactics

Yeah, have you ever read World War Hulk series? Cyclops were nothing with his dumb eyes against him. BTW: Stay at the topic, because Hulk is not on topic right know. (Hulk would punch almost every hero through the ocean, I think only the Sentry were able to defeat him, alone, but I'm not sure...maybe he got some help)

Why are you people talking about the Hulk? The thread is about Cyclops and Wolverine!
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This is no contest at all. It's like a big bully stealing candy from kindergarten child! Cyclops is a dead meat!
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Cyclops would win. If he is angry, Cyclops would remove his visor and give Wolvie a taste of a full on optic blast. What can one do?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast3.jpg

First he takes a hit from a Sentinal and then decides to let the Sentinel have it. Even Wolvie knows what's up.

Cyclops' beams are made up of concussive force, even if he can do that Wolverine has his indestructible adamantium skeleton and ridiculous healing factor.

Wolverine regenerated himself back from this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/muchalucha/Wolverine43-017-018.jpg

Cyclops' beams can't accomplish that. They'd only knock him back. Sure, he can "punch holes in mountains", but last time I checked mountains weren't indestructible like Wolverine (except in AoA, but I assume we're talking about 616).
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Quote from: nodoubt_jr on March 03, 2009, 01:36PM
Why are you people talking about the Hulk? The thread is about Cyclops and Wolverine!
I know, I know. Sorry, but this was important for me, back to topic.
Quote from: ThatGuy on March 03, 2009, 09:51PM
Cyclops would win. If he is angry, Cyclops would remove his visor and give Wolvie a taste of a full on optic blast. What can one do?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/howdysaysthedrow/X-Men/Blast3.jpg

First he takes a hit from a Sentinal and then decides to let the Sentinel have it. Even Wolvie knows what's up.
Well, don't forget, that Wolverine would kill everybody, if he is in his angry, feral state, but you have a point there.
Quote from: Dihan on March 04, 2009, 01:31AM
Cyclops' beams are made up of concussive force, even if he can do that Wolverine has his indestructible adamantium skeleton and ridiculous healing factor.

Wolverine regenerated himself back from this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/muchalucha/Wolverine43-017-018.jpg

Cyclops' beams can't accomplish that. They'd only knock him back. Sure, he can "punch holes in mountains", but last time I checked mountains weren't indestructible like Wolverine (except in AoA, but I assume we're talking about 616).
There is a point in this too (yes, we are talking about the primary 616 universe)

Wolverine is key to saving anybody at anytime no matter the condition.  When wolverine was being pursued, by guards in the building where they held the x-men after lookin for Kitty Pride, he reacted and killed them instantly, but Cyclops has so much energy behind his visor in which you cant determine his potential.
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Quote from: Dihan on March 04, 2009, 01:31AM
Wolverine regenerated himself back from this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/muchalucha/Wolverine43-017-018.jpg

Now, come on... I'll take this as poetic license, if not as downright bad writing. Lots of previous, well established evidence suggests that Wolvie shouldn't regenerate from THAT.

(But I'll concede that things change and I've been out of touch of Marvel for a while - in fact, MUA brought me back!)

Loads of things are retconned. This is one of them.
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March 04, 2009, 08:16AM #28 Last Edit: March 04, 2009, 08:21AM by ZOS
Quote from: Dihan on March 04, 2009, 01:31AM
Cyclops' beams can't accomplish that. They'd only knock him back. Sure, he can "punch holes in mountains", but last time I checked mountains weren't indestructible like Wolverine (except in AoA, but I assume we're talking about 616).

Well, there's a distinction to be made here between "universe" and "continuity", I guess. AoA may be a 'pocket universe', but is firmly set within (back then) official Marvel continuity. In fact, a series of events set in official continuity made AoA possible at all.
(Sorry I didn't notice the quoted comment before!)



Quote from: Dihan on March 04, 2009, 07:50AM
Loads of things are retconned. This is one of them.

Understood. Quite frankly, this is one bit I don't like.

Quote from: StepfordCuckoos<3 on March 04, 2009, 02:03AM
Wolverine is key to saving anybody at anytime no matter the condition.  When wolverine was being pursued, by guards in the building where they held the x-men after lookin for Kitty Pride, he reacted and killed them instantly, but Cyclops has so much energy behind his visor in which you cant determine his potential.
Well, I saw some X-Men cartoons and many comics, and if Cyclops used his power fully, it wasn't enough, to do damage (like in World War Hulk or in X-Men Evolution, the second time against Juggernaut). But, against Wolverine, well, don't forget, if Cyclops is angry, he isn't that tactical style, but Wolverine always that fast killing animal.